Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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I am. My friend Sanjeeth sent me a PM about prayer to try and help my current health situation. Appreciated like many here mentioning prayer and treatment but this brought up a very inspiring attitude that all inventors can realize and get “an edge” like I have.
Sanjeeth sent me some material from the Catholic religion. I went to Catholic school all my life. They even had me so influenced I would go to church on my own before school sometimes.
As I got older and saw how many religions claim they are right and others are “all wrong and whacked in the head” or other similar vicious or mean intents. I then thought this religion stuff makes many pretty nutty…so just be a good person, help and care as many people…and all created actually…and you will do alright with religion or as a good religious person.
Forget any particular religion and their rules etc. they are so sure of. I chose to be religious everywhere I go and in every thing I do. My religion gets practiced every second I’m conscious.
Now here is the great tip for inventing I will share with you. The biggest part of my inventing passion is how my inventions will help millions. My writing invention, my next project, will help all but especially handicapped.
I don’t pray too much. Haven’t sat in a church in years listening to the priest say the same thing over and over. I might even be able to say my entire religion is contained in my inventions. God will see I am a good person by my GREAT passion to help people.
THIS religious outlook towards inventing gives me a greater and bigger passion which helps my success!!!
OK…so I have a couple inventions that will really help society….a couple big ones…but I also have a few that will help a mom in the kitchen so she has more time with her family…and one for little girls, a sort of toy/fashion accessory that will make them a bit happier. Whether you have a big invention or a “little” one, that is ALL LUCK…the point here is all inventor’s contributions are the same.
All inventions help people. Does anyone else look at inventing like a religious act of good…or just simply doing a good deed? Thinking this way just gives me a great edge I think. I think of money last…and it doesn’t even matter. I also know the people with that attitude become the billionaires.
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Coty Lowery
coty777
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I don’t look at it as helping others but to express myself and invent thing that can be useful. The Bible dose say that even a child is known by what he dose.
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John Larkin
icecreamman
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GO CATHOLIC RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Coty Lowery
coty777
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I’m not Catholic but I’v been tought to respect other peoples’ religion.
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joseph jackson
joseph
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Ron Hi,
I do believe that god has blessed inventors with the gift of inventing. in return they have blessed others by inventing useful product ideas that will help mankind.
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Yes Joseph. There is sometimes something religious, historic, rare good motivation in the inventor’s “blood”
I think some inventors are really driven by the heart and soul to do really good things. I do believe this effort amounts to more than keeping a seat warm in church (Not knocking churchgoers at all..that can be very good too and all the aid they do to communities etc.). I just think us inventors can be very special people.
Look at one of my favorite inventors Dean Kamen, the inventor of the Segway. He mostly invents for medical innovations and many concepts for handicapped. Such an interesting and honorable inventor if you do a quick search on him.
One of his big projects right now is a simple system to bring clean drinking water to poor people in 3rd world countries. Something like a third of people in the world don’t even have clean water to drink. Dean wants to change that…if he does…I think he should become a saint.
Lots of preachers can talk a whole lot of whatever you want to call it…and then ask for some cash to promote some more whole lot of whatever you want to call it…but an inventor can be like a religious missionary even…helping many worldwide. Even if it’s a little something to make a person’s day a little easier…doesn’t matter how big.
I can see how inventing can be part of a person’s religion. Just want to see if others agree.
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Todd Bouton
inventodd
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My religious outlook towards inventing.
I know my self, I’m just an average guy, but I learned early on that if I stay at something long enough the solution will just appear right in front of me. I still get surprised when this happens. A higher power?
The mystery is that space between problem _?_and solution. When that blank space is filled, I always get that —I did it feeling—, but did I really do it alone?
That —I did it feeling—can give a guy quite an adrenalin rush, and is very addictive. That would be great if I could just get paid for this addiction.
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Michael Dufresne
miked
Gold Member
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I personaly am not a religious inventor. I invent part-time to make money and enjoy the challenge of new ideas or solving problems. For those that stick to a product through manufacturing instead of licensing – you must be blessed with patience. I have 10 new ideas a week and can’t really turn it off. Some of my ideas are good and some are just plain silly. However, I don’t think there is any divine intervention when ideas pop into inventing minds. It’s all about training the brain to solve problems and minning novel approaches. FYI – I don’t beleive in big foot either :)
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Mary Kisko
kiskom
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Ron,
I think Church is needed at different stages in one’s life. It’s been years since I consistently attended church. I get up everyday and make a conscious effort to be kind to people. I love my job because I am a Nurse and I get to make a difference in someone’s life each day. It’s my favorite part of my job. I believe that God works through people and the more acts of kindness I do the better I feel. In regards to inventing, I strongly feel that God put the right people in my pathway to make it all happen. I started 10 years ago; I didn’t have a network like Everyday Nation to help me. I was totally clueless, but I met some really trustworthy people during my inventing journey that directed me and got me to this point. Some people would argue that I made it happen with my persistence. I must admit, Perseverance is one of my finest qualities and something that I admire most about myself. However, I feel some highly spiritual connection with my invention I can’t completely explain or put into words.
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Julie Brown
sleepyhead
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Hi Ron,
I was raised Catholic but have wandered – REALLY wandered. I believe in reincarnation and that all knowledge is accumulative. I KNOW that my idea for the pillowcase came to me as a present from my favorite deceased aunt. I trust myself and my ideas implicitly, without doubt. I thank a higher power every night for all that I have and say how grateful I am. Rather than praying to something higher to ask to make me better, I thank that power for making me so good. Sounds rather pretentious but I would rather be grateful than in a position of asking to be seen as good. I see and hear goodness in you.
Whatever someone chooses – spirituality or religion – it is okay as long as they recognize that there must be something greater than just ourselves.
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Linda Linda
cattycatranch
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Bless me, Father Ron, for I have sinned (makes sign of the cross). For I do want my ideas to make money (dips fingers in holy water). Even the ice cream flavored candies I dreamed up – and Lord knows the world does not need more candy (genuflects).
But if my ideas ever did make money, I would happily spend it on good works. OK, and I confess that I’d pay someone to clean my house, too. Just to free up time . . . to invent stuff. (;^)
(Hmm. I can easily see Ron dressed as a priest. Saying Mass. In Latin. (;^)
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Linda Linda
cattycatranch
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On a serious note, I don’t know who or what God is, but I have no doubt that there is a Divine Intelligence. I can see Her influence throughout my life. Too much has happened – good stuff – that cannot be chalked up to mere chance or coincidence. Spending money selfishly would be bad karma. Really, really bad.
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joseph jackson
joseph
Gold Member
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divine intervention is when one has been blessed with the gift of invention or any other gift that will solve life’s everyday problems. also when i pray, i pray to the father and not the mother.
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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I’m not saying to be the “all holy” inventor. I have studied the field of “individual excellence”, the great leader/entrepreneur, the great inventor/innovator for many many years…as well as famous geniuses that have made major contributions. Many of them, if not most think they may have been “chosen” to be given a special gift of exception to do a special job around here.
This is what some claim. I’m not saying that. I’m saying that applying a little link to your inventing from the heart may give you the edge needed to succeed. For me, if I did not make a dime I would push my inventions just to help people. THAT gives me an edge that is quite rare I believe for someone that is totally in the business world at the same time.
This attitude can touch on the edge of religion I believe. Trying to do good deeds as a priority.
I am making these statements here because maybe others can feel what I am saying and get a boost in their projects. If you even have a money saver household gadget you can feel extremely good about your project because of saving struggling families a couple bucks….even stuff like that…you can even in that instance of a money saving invention for all…look at it like a sort of “charity” you are helping with.
Something to put in the head maybe to give you an edge. Not all inventions will fit this stance. I have a few little gadgets thought of just to fill the bank account..if I ever get to them.
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Alnew Concepts
susan1
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If you define Religion by (Com)Passion, then one could measure the Passionate Inventor by the depth they are consumed into their own inner purpose.
[So if] Passion defines the Love of what you do…
[And] Compassion defines the Love of what you do for others…
Then Ron, through the intentions of revealing your inner self, you have undoubtably defined what is truly the (Com)Passionate Inventor. Whether religiously in your commitment to others with the sharing of knowledge and your testimonies, your teachings have greatly influenced and inspired the Passions within us.
Thank you Ron and God Bless.
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Great Susan! You understand what I am saying. As I hear of how my invention helps EMS or handicapped in the past it just gave me such a forever burning fuel to keep pushing my invention. Others inventions don’t have to be some health breakthrough…it could be a simple timesaver…a few ticks it saves but they add up…and that is nice to do for thousands or millions of people with your invention.
Now if you follow this train of thought, and think of how you can help many enjoy life a little better when they are using your invention, think that way, be it even your own personal religion to help people…an inventor can find a GREAT inspiration for themselves to succeed.
This attitude I have and I don’t know many that can run with me in the passion department. I just want to pass on this little inventor advice I have. Maybe look into the possible “deeper” part of your inventing…unlike the bogus what they say about not being emotionally attached to your invention…all GREAT inventions had a very specially attached inventor to see it through.
I believe the emotionally attached inventor is much more likely to succeed…but also have the brains to correctly evaluate too. Don’t let emotions over-run the truth in your research and analysis/final evaluations.
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robert of Wv
badone1965
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Ron
all i can say is i pray regularly , at bed time with my boys we hold hands and say their prayers. i was raised in a Baptist church home and my mother would have it no other way
i`ve done and seen alot. good and bad. bu ti can say that i have seen the work of GOD and i know that it can heal. but remember there is always a bigger picture than just you and i..
i pray that you get the answers you seek and money you need to further your families future.
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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LindaLinda: “Hmm. I can easily see Ron dressed as a priest. Saying Mass. In Latin.”
Actually, I myself picture Ron probably performing exorcisms, rather than conducting eucharistic celebrations!?

“Ahhh, now let’s see here…Ummm, exorcizamus te, omnis immundus spiritus omnis satanica potestas, omnis incursio infernalis adversarii, omnis legio, omnis congregatio et secta diabolica…No, wait a minute, ummm…Ergo, draco maledicte et omnis legio diabolica, adjuramus te, cessa decipere humanas creaturas…Okay now, depart, then, impious one, depart, accursed one, depart with all your deceits…Damn it, now I’m gettin’ really piss’d here! You do know dat you’re dwellin’ in an American citizen, right? I shouldn’t have to command you in any other language other than AMERICAN…Comprender?! Ummm…Give place to the Holy Spirit…Ah, by this sign of the holy cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, who lives and reigns with the Father and the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever…Forgetaboutit…Get da hell outta there, will ya!!!”
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Continue Fightin’ the Good Fight, Ron! SMILE 
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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Robert~
I do like your avatar…It reminds me of something, but can’t quite put my finger on it!? Oh, it’ll come to me eventually! It is a bit creepy though!?

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Linda Linda
cattycatranch
Gold Member
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Aha!! So Sir Eddie is the guardian of dead languages. vini vidi vinci Then I took a nap. (;^)
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Linda Linda
cattycatranch
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Robert, if you’re not going to post a photo, then how about a color change? Teal blue, maybe? (;^)
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Alnew Concepts
susan1
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Sir Edward is that you laying in that padded bed?? ;-p
…Robert, Teal is a nice color
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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Well, actually, the individual lying in the padded bed is purely symbolic…It could represent me or maybe even you…
But more than likely, it’s LindaLinda!? 
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John Larkin: ”GO CATHOLIC RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Hmmm, I wonder if that was the exact slogan used by the Catholic Church during its 605 years of the inquisition…If not, it should have been!?
It’s definitely a keeper! 
Michael Dufresne: ”FYI – I don’t believe in big foot either.”

”Well, I’m just sayin’, technically, I’ve never seen Michael Dufresne in person, nor have I never spoken with him…Although, this alone doesn’t disprove his existence nor does it his non-existence…All I see is a semi-blurry avatar photo of him here on this forum…My question here is, why are all the pictures I’ve seen of Michael Dufresne that have been posted to his profile here blurry…I just don’t get it?! So, in conclusion, regarding the evidence I’ve personally examined myself, I would have to say that I don’t believe in Michael Dufresne either!”
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David Cramer
davidkcramer
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Hi Guys,
I am back after a summer of work to launch our alternative energy products company. I couldn’t resist this forum string.
To add my two cents, I would say that the creativity in each of us proves the existance of a God who transcends religion. He is infinitely creative and has created us in His image. Your creativity is proof that you are His children and have His life with in you(whether you believe in Him or not).
Beyond our own issues w/ submitting our lives to a supreme creator, any one who truly studies the world around them ,will see that all of creation bears witness to His existence. There is an amazing puposeful design in every aspect and corner of the universe.(See Lee Stroebel’s “Case For A Creator” for lots of awesome documentation.)
When we focus our attention on solving problems and helping people and critters in the world around us, we make it a better place. We were created for two things (according to Genesis 1. First to have relationship with Him and second, to be stewards of our world. There in lies our destiy and our inheritance. Consequently, our sense of purpose, fulfillment, exhillaration, and joy in the journey will be most tangible to us when we are walking on that path. Therein lies “zoe”. Keep up the good work, you were created for such a time as this…
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David Cramer
davidkcramer
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I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to scare everyone away. My goal was to encourage you all to keep up the good work. Blessings!
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Cody Dalton
manufacturemaster
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Personally I don’t see how any inventor could NOT believe there is a God.
No matter what You’ve invented, it is not near as advanced in technology as the human body or mind.
Or actually any animal or even insect for that matter…
Your body has: The skeletal system, the muscular system, the cardio-vascular system, the respiratory system, the nervous system, the reproductive system, the digestive sytem … all working in perfect harmony. Then, you just so happen to live in an incredible dynamic of an “earth” that supports this possibility. If you think this is all an accident, then you must believe that winning the lottery every single day of your life is possible.
Take a mosquito for example, if a human could create such a product, it would cost hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars; and be among the most advanced and sophisticated technology that we know about, yet we swat it out of the air as if it were nothing.
In the Bible it says that God created human in God’s image. It’s obviously true… We are the only creature on earth that can invent…. Just like the greatest inventor of all time… God. Then he gave us all the tools, materials, inspiration, and blueprints to advance our technology in a meticuously progressive manner. From birds we learned how to fly. From rock cliffs and caves we learned how to build fortresses and buildings…
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ralf chlipalski
ralfcis
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Nope don’t buy it. The universe seems very souless and mathematical to me. If we lived in a universe that had no consistent reality, I’d buy that a master magician controlled things. The only evidence I’ve seen of intelligence outside od mathematical expression is in animate objects. I can’t see evidence that the universe is animate therefore I can’t believe in a god. It all depends on how you define intelligence I guess.
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Richard McFee
watergators
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A speck of dust in an infinitely huge duststorm, trying to unlock all of the secrets of the invisible wind. Impossible. Just be the dust, and allow the other specks to do the same. This will free your soul, regardless of any particular belief systems you may have adopted.
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Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin
cander09
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An inspiring presentation that I am posting on behalf of Julie Brown.
In Julie’s words, “I read it as an inventor and felt that most of what it said was written for us”.
It is a powerpoint presentation and you can download it at:
http://onecastcreative.com/en/powerpoint/randy4...
file size: 1.9Mb
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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David Cramer: "Consequently, our sense of purpose, fulfillment, exhilaration, and joy in the journey will be most tangible to us when we are walking on that path. Therein lies “zoe”.

"Oh, no, no, now look what you’ve done, Mr. Davy-Dave! Please stop cryin’, Mimi…I really don’t understand what all that talks about anyways or why he wrote, “Therein lies “zoe”? But I swear, I’ve never lied to you or anyone else for that matter! I mean seriously, my Birthday is September 30th…I like playing with my best friend, Elmo and my favorite activity is Ballet…I can sing lots of songs and count to really high numbers…Oh, I can also count from 20 to 0 backwards with a mouthful of marbles…Lyin’ just ain’t my style! Plus, I don’t think filin’ a lawsuit for Defamation of Character would be appropriate at this juncture, Mimi!”
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Robert Francois
dougf1
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Hi Ron, I appreciate your way of thinking and all your advise on inventing. If you have not read the book titled A New Earth by author Eckart Tolle please do. It is right up your alley. It is very powerful and may be some comfort for you. Thanks for everything and good luck
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David Cramer
davidkcramer
Gold Member
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Hey peanut!
Great job w/ Zoe! I wanted to keep you guessing, but zoe=life. The kind of life we were meant to live- full, free, abundant, fulfilling, exhillerating and everlasting.
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Maria Milana-Panopoulos
iinvent2
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I “Belive” God give’s us all special gifts to help others, what we choose to do with them is our choice.
But if you “believe” in your heart, God answers your prayers!
“If you believe in yourself others believe in you and that is a gift from all who belive in God” or whichever God they believe is a universal one!
Only if the world did come together we would be one…lol
Have a wonderful day!
Maria
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Interesting replies here. I started this because there is a strong mention of religion on the forums at times. I wanted to see if some people look at their invention as sort of a “good deed” like in religion teaches us to do.
If you have lets say an invention for children or medical, it can be part a religious incentive to help many people. Many in the world only care about themselves but I do believe the inventor is of a special breed…really trying to unselfishly contribute something to the world just like a religion reaches us…work together.
I think this mindset can really help us inventors if you include it. You can still think of money and success too. Put all these mindsets together and I think it makes for a powerful drive.
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David Cramer
davidkcramer
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Thanks for the thread Ron.
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John Delatorre
johnsjohn
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We have included God in our products. You can check them out at our website www.funstix.net. He’s displayed on our patriotic garage door magnets and what we call our Holy Christmas fun packs. Let us know what you think. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. John <><
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Robert Francois
dougf1
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Sir Edward, have you figured out who the guy is on my avatar yet. I bet Ron knows.
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brendan reen
boxerballsbrendan
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cynical about organised religion myself,but the bottom line i think is, is a life of self seeking is one eternal yawn, that is boring and uninspiring.
how about the other path -sacrifice, compassion??
truth is most people worship the money God in one way or another
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william ricely
williamricely
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THIS Is Fascinating – It’s Rather Dazzling To See It Presented This Way.
I CERTAINLY THOUGHT THIS WAS ENLIGHTENING. BEYOND OUR SUN IT’S A BIG UNIVERSE.
ANTARES IS THE 15 TH BRIGHTEST STAR IN THE SKY ..
IT IS MORE THAN 1000 LIGHT YEARS AWAY.
NOW HOW BIG ARE YOU?
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NOW TRY TO WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND THIS………
THIS IS A
HUBBLE TELESCOPE ULTRA DEEP FIELD INFRARED VIEW OF COUNTLESS
‘ENTIRE’ GALAXIES BILLIONS OF LIGHT-YEARS AWAY.
BELOW IS A CLOSE-UP OF ONE OF THE DARKEST REGIONS OF THE
PHOTO ABOVE.
HUMBLING,
ISN’T IT?
And yet, Someone
knows how many hairs are on your head, and not even
a single sparrow dies apart from His will (Mt. 10:29-31)!
NOW
HOW BIG ARE YOU?
AND HOW BIG ARE THE THINGS
THAT UPSET YOU TODAY?
AND
HOW BIG IS YOUR GOD?
KEEP LIFE IN
PERSPECTIVE.
AND DON’T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF!
IT’S ALL UNDER CONTROL (Job 38)
STILL, SOME SAY THERE IS NOT A GOD !
HOPE YOU CAN FIND TIME TO FORWARD THIS TO A FRIEND…….
End of Forwarded Message
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Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin
cander09
Gold Member
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This illustration is hard to read, but our sun is depicted by one pixel and Jupiter doesn’t even register on the scale! However, the illustration will help reinforce William’s post. I should add the diameter of our sun is 865,000 miles!

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Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin
cander09
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Posted on William’s behalf in addition to the one I posted below.
THIS IS A
HUBBLE TELESCOPE ULTRA DEEP FIELD INFRARED VIEW OF COUNTLESS
‘ENTIRE’ GALAXIES BILLIONS OF LIGHT-YEARS AWAY.

BELOW IS A CLOSE-UP OF ONE OF THE DARKEST REGIONS OF THE
PHOTO ABOVE.

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ralf chlipalski
ralfcis
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Now I understand, I have nothing to worry about because my problems are so small compared to the size of the universe. Makes sense if I was the size of the universe. But what if my problems are big compared to my size or what if I’m the universe and I’m slowly inching away to total annihilation. That would be a big problem for me.
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william ricely
williamricely
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You’re Hilarious Ralfcies! It’s good to know that even a pessimistic speck of dust in the grand scheme of things can have a great sense of humor! hahaha :)
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william ricely
williamricely
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Ps all those inventions u posted the other day were pretty good, I wish u would get a gold membership so u could enter em’ all the time in other searches! (assuming u’ve done online searches and they don’t already exist).
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Irina Ivanna
ivanna
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Ron Wrote:…“All inventions help people. Does anyone else look at inventing like a religious act of good…or just simply doing a good deed? Thinking this way just gives me a great edge I think. I think of money last…and it doesn’t even matter. I also know the people with that attitude become the billionaires”.
I am a “new age” follower, agree with LindaLinda about the Universal Intelligence and trying to comprehend how it all works.
So far my phylosphy is: Money is given too myuch thought, importance, power while it is only a social tool of goods exchange. If a person concentrate on what s/he loves doing most of all for the sake of doing that being in tune of living his best destiny either inventing, creating, laying on the beach, serving in the army, waiting tables etc—- money will come along as a attribute of universal abandance. It is useless to concentrate on money doing something, the creating energy goes completely wrong direction (to the robert’s black hole to be exact haha:); while if there is a true higher energy of all creations is involved in inventions – it will bring all the goods in incl MONEY. JMO
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ralf chlipalski
ralfcis
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This quote really got me thinking “not even a single sparrow dies apart from His will (Mt. 10:29-31).” Now I believe in a mathematical universe so there’s really no need for a god in my view to make sure to keep every electron properly orbiting in every atom in the universe. But then it hit me, there is indeed something that is aware of everything going on or has ever gone on in the universe and that is time. Then my head started spinning to all the things I could not explain before. For example why are things on the quantum level completely random, yet there is great order in the universe. Why does the universe, an inanimate object, evolve the same way life evolves (even though the laws of thermodynamics are contrary to evolution). Now if you define creation as the extraction of order from chaos, then time is like a creator. Time allows behaviors to emerge from randomness. Consider the example of a coin flip. Each flip is random but over time a pattern emerges that half the flips will be heads. Imagine pure randomness where evertime you did a billion flips, the percentage of heads would tend towards a random number.
Evolution has two tenents: natural selection and random mutation. We know things adapt yet we’ve never witnessed a species jump. There is an inherent pattern in the random mutations that time extracts into an orderly progression, just like the coin flips. The universe, based on the pure randomness of the quantum level, orderly evolves in the same way. Space may be the cradle of existence but time determines its purpose.
Einstein defined time as something clocks measure but I think it’s more than that. Time has certain properties. For example it slows in gravitational fields and for things in motion yet it’s tied to the universal constancy of the speed of light. It’s also related to absolute zero in that it’s resolution and accuracy is increased the closer an atomic clock can be cooled to absolute zero. I’m sure it can be tied to every universal constant in some way which is no coincidence.
Thanks for liking my inventions, I think I’m saving money by not going with a gold membership. I’ve got about 140 inventions to enter and I’ve come up with a way of re-entering them without wasting the $25 fee. I hope they don’t close me down if they figure out my method.
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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“Einstein defined time as something clocks measure but I think it’s more than that. Time has certain properties.”

Well, I don’t know about all that? But, I can’t figure out how my broken watch, which displays the exact time twice a day, might change the curvature of the current space/time continuum…Which occurs as a result of the influence of mass against movement in time. So, if we all had dead watches, we could not detect time – we would exist only for the moment. The result of this is our apparent perception of time as a linear line, always going forward…What the hell time is it anyway?!
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ralf chlipalski
ralfcis
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Time is something clocks measure.
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Sir Edward
pnutgalaree
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Perhaps TIME is more of a measurement system that measures change!? 
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Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin
cander09
Gold Member
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william ricely
williamricely
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“Do not be thriftless of time, for it’s the stuff that life is made of.”
Quote from somebody famous, I don’t have time to figure out who! :)
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