First time here? Sign up for a free account or log in

Forums » Creativity » Topic


Lesson # 36 What are some ways to be more creative?
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Exposing yourself to new areas you have not dealt with before helps broaden your knowledge base. I will wander Lowes, Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Toys R Us routinely looking at all the products in the store. I will also pick a store I have never been in before such as a paint store or a stone and tile store to see if anything sparks my interest.
One exercise I do daily is to randomly pick a subject for that day and no matter what else I am working on I write down as many ways you can improve on that subject. I find that after a while I will have things pop into my head without really concentrating on the subject. Todays subject is shovels.
What do you do to get your mind rolling?

posted December 01, 2011 04:28 (
)


chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Greg,
That is a great idea… I know I could learn a lot just from reading more. You should start a book club thread where we ccan share good material we come across and then discuss in forum. I have already ordered that book you posted so I can start my imagineering workouts.

posted December 08, 2011 05:56 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

I am pulling this thread from a Lesson Challenge I posted a year ago, because it is now locked and I think others will benefit from seeing this again.

I have gotten some emails about this post http://www.edisonnation.com/forums/creativity/t...;

and Inventors laughing at the question number 10. Which is “How much time do you spend Watching QVC and HSN”. You would be surprised how much you can learn taking time to watch and really look at how they try and pull the viewer into the benefits of the product verbally and visually. Look at the difference how they pitch the product when they have just a few minutes to spend on the product versus when they have 20 minutes. You can also use this as an aid to writing your own sell sheet. Watch a product that comes up record it with the sound down and think what you would say to get a persons attention if you had to pitch that product. Write them down. Then replay the segment and see if you used any of the points they did and did they miss some points you saw they didn’t. I challenge everyone here to do it and see how well you make out. Post your experience here.

posted December 07, 2011 10:52 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

Thanks guys… <:-)

4 miles south of my Mother’s house in Virginia was “Paintlick Mountain”, so named because of the ancient Indian Murals
on the rock cliffs along the southern side of the summit. Paintlick was at the western end of a long ridgeline that rose 2,500ft
above the surrounding valleys; the northern, southern, and westward slopes were VERY steep and made for a vigorous workout
to hike up to the cliffs.

About 100ft below the cliffs was a “shelf” that was a well used resting/camping area for hikers…. the painting depicts this
Shelf just after dawn. Many, many times this was the scene as we broke camp and prepared to climb the cliffs, although
most of the hikes I went on were done during cold weather because of the scaled and furry “wildlife” up there!

Painting of Paintlick Mountain as seen from my Mom’s house…

Pictures of Paintlick

posted December 07, 2011 09:52 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Colonel that vertibird is cool. I have an R/C Helicopter that I am afraid of. It has already attacked me and it is 3’ long 10"tall. It cut me deep and I threw it against the wall. I already dismanteled it (primarily to change the rotor) and it does not disappoint. with LED flashing lights all over and a spotlight underneath. Too bad I am afraid of it; it would probably be fun. lol… Susan watched it attack me and me cower on the couch as it approached me. The heli is NOT allowed in the house… Very funny stuff.

posted December 07, 2011 09:39 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

That is nice… I can feel the dampness and virtually smell the woodiness…

posted December 07, 2011 09:34 (
)
051263's Avataree_badge
greg bruce
111,750
Insider Points

Man, I feel like I recognize that place from my childhood. I wish I was close to that type of wooded environment. Nice work Frank.

posted December 07, 2011 09:08 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

When building scale model dioramas, the “inner workings” of several items are invaluable, such as:

(1) Battery operated toys with lights and sound, where each circuit can control different features on the diorama: WWII aircraft carrier scene… cave exploring scene… police responding to call scene… etc etc.

(2) Old watches, particularly useful for pullys/wheels on ship building and making a homemade “ponce wheel” to replicate rivots on aircraft models.

(Also, household aluminum foil makes an excellent “bare metal” finish on model airplanes!)
-
As far as my “art” aptitude, it is generally brought on by some negative outside circumstance or situation, which is worked through and resolved during the course of the painting; for instance, here is the painting the conflicts in this thread inspired: “Nature’s Way”

posted December 07, 2011 07:43 (
)
corsaire's Avatargold
Greg Rotz
53,000
Insider Points

I think it was my Six Million Dollar Man action figure that I broke open to find the chest cavity didn’t have electronics or anything but a couple of rubber bands keeping the arms and legs from falling off (OK, may have been Action Jackson, but I think that was the one I tore the rubber off the bicep to figure out how it made a muscle; really bugging me now because I can’t remember how that worked.)

Here’s one, anyone want to share books on being creative that they’ve found useful or fun? I’ve got a quite a few on my shelves; one is:
The Imagineering Workout
http://www.amazon.com/Imagineering-Workout-Disn...

Has a page or two of concepts and/or activities from a different person who works for Disney.

posted December 06, 2011 15:56 (
)
cander09's Avatarname search
Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin

I took apart my Vertibird and was really disappointed. I ruined a very cool toy. And to top it off, I put the motor wires into a 110v outlet, ruined the motor and burnt my fingers!

Speaking of flashlights, I was at Boy Scout camp and was trying to open a disposable flashlight by jabbing it with my pocket knife. I stabbed my middle finger on my other hand. Ouch and lots of blood. I never did get it open.

posted December 06, 2011 14:27 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Colonel,
That double drive screwdriver is so cool. I actually thought that needed to be that way but the only way I could figure out how made the main shaft too thick. Great find! I will take pictures of the insides of the battery powered drill for discussion of the differences.

I took everything apart from lawnmowers, to VCR’s, to telephones and toys. Nothing was safe. Was there anything that you ever took apart that disappointed you? My biggest disapointment was taking apart a flashlight. There is no magic in a flashlight. I was so disappointed that I insisted on building my own and not use a manufactured one. It was just a lightbulb and a battery. Funny.

posted December 06, 2011 12:56 (
)
cander09's Avatarname search
Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin

Jane, when I was about 8 or so, I got a tape recorder for Christmas, by noon, I had the back off and and the circuit board out of it. I ended up destroying it, but I just had to know what was inside. My Mom took me out the next day and replaced it. That new one stayed in one piece. It was typical for me to take things apart, more often than not, they never were put back together the correct way.

“The other thing I’ve figured out over the years is where missing socks go: they somehow get compressed into screws. Seems like anytime I take something apart and put it back together I end up with an extra screw.”
Greg, I hope you don’t rebuild aircraft or heart machines :)

posted December 06, 2011 10:41 (
)
corsaire's Avatargold
Greg Rotz
53,000
Insider Points

Jane, of course we aren’t older versions: we just haven’t grown up :)

I think I relayed this one before, but fits in here: when I was seven or eight my grandfather had a heart attack, and they gave him a pacemaker. We went to visit him and when we go to the door, he asks:
“Is Greg with you?”
My Mom: “Yes.”
Him: “He doesn’t have a screwdriver does he?”

The other thing I’ve figured out over the years is where missing socks go: they somehow get compressed into screws. Seems like anytime I take something apart and put it back together I end up with an extra screw.

posted December 06, 2011 10:19 (
)
imajane's Avatarname search
Jane J.
457,250
Insider Points

Interesting thread. Makes me wonder…
Who among you would consider yourselves to have been “take-it-apart” kinds of kids? Is that more of a guy thing? Did you fearlessly get into your parent’s tool box and go to town taking apart anything that looked interesting… and just plan on suffering the consequences later (or not even consider the possibility of an angry response)? Did you need help getting stuff back together? Did you break things?

I watch my son do that with absolutely ANYthing. He is relentlessly curious about how stuff works. And he often comes up with new ways to put things back together! Sometimes you guys just sound like older versions of him. Not that there’s anything wrong with that! ;-)

posted December 06, 2011 10:13 (
)
cander09's Avatarname search
Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin

I echo what Tony stated. Chappy, you are back to the guy I like :) I have never liked Roger, but I would never say that in public!

Although not a drill, have you seen the new Double Drive screwdriver from Kobalt. It is very interesting; continued driving direction while twisting the handle in either direction. I saw a commercial last night for it. Nice reviews for it too: Link to Double Drive

posted December 06, 2011 09:51 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Roger, assembly lines and adding to that thought…

I had the distinct privelege of watching our products at action EDM and Tool (*now American EDM in Charlotte NC) be assembled into a working product for American Motor Products (AMP). My roll was production control and the ISO 9000 QC “Observer”/auditor. Action was responsible for making the Tooling that went into the Die.

The Die is designed to take in flat copper sheet and the biproduct at the end of the die’s process is rolled electrical connector with a 5 micron +/- tolerance. I am not sure exactly how many parts comprised the whole but it was well over 200 for sure. We assembled the Die in the back of the shop of Action. It is comprised of the top block and a bottom block, the action assemblies and tools. Each tool is responsible either cutting, punching or rolling the slightest bit. You could imagine hundreds of little workers lined up with a single purpose, to do their job or function in 1/100 of a second or less.

The parts of the Die were maticulously serialized on assembly tables, which was my job, because they were well numbered and categorized the assembly went very smoothly. When there was a part that was not machined to specs it went back to the shop floor to be brought within spec. When complete to spec the part was then inserted into the block. The process of assembling it took almost an entire work day but that process has stuck with me for a lifetime. It was my roll to prescribe the correction and communicate it to the floor.

Production lines are designed to assemble assembled assemblies into a product greater the the sum of it’s parts in a streamlined standardized way. That experience impacted the way I view products immensely. I look at a finished product and can actually visualize the method of production to get the parts that comprise the assemblies of the whole, virtually disassembling the product without ever having to pick up a tool.

God Bless and Merry Christmas to all!

That being said, has anybody noticed the difference of older drills to todays battery powered drills? It is very interesting. I thought I knew how they work until I disassembled a new Black N Decker Drill. It was different from what I thought I knew.

Chappy!

posted December 06, 2011 07:50 (
)
inventormom's Avatargold
patricia herzog-mesrobian
344,250
Insider Points

Here Here ….

A Happy and Blessed Holiday to you and your families as well !!

posted December 05, 2011 18:10 (
)
t-money's Avatargold
Tony Murillo
60,000
Insider Points

I commend you both! Chappy for stepping up like a MAN and Roger for being MAN enough to accept and move on.

“A Merry Christmas to us all; God bless us, every one!” Tiny Tim
Charles Dickens

posted December 05, 2011 17:31 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy, that is fine. Lets get back to discussing ways to be more creative. If you get the chance to tour any companies in your area that is always interesting to me. It amazes me to see what went into the set-up of a mechanical production line. That was one of things that fascinated me working running a nuclear reactor. Our reactors were not generating power for public use, they were making special nuclear materials for weapons, medicines, and batteries. All of the redundancy in systems and alternate back-ups, the sheer size of the equipment and their function, the radiological hazards and protective equipment, all made it a extremely interesting place.

posted December 05, 2011 14:24 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

I am glad to see that all agree with taking things apart. Church was about acceptance today. Hmmm… I didn’t accept you Roger and sincerly I am sorry. A new leaf is turned. I have been arrogant and self righteous. I am sorry. Those are ugly traits and I accept responsibility for my typing.

posted December 04, 2011 20:39 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

It is known by my neigbors that I like to take things apart so a number of them will bring me items they have that they are looking to replace due to the current one being broken. I always ask what happened to the item before taking it apart. It is surprizing how many of them I am able to fix with little effort. It mainly comes down to lack of maintenance, like a clogged filter, or a gear that has gotten out of alingment. I love seeing their faces when I bring it back functioning.
We are a disposable society and if you look at most products they are designed to break or when they do break the price difference between fixing the old and buying a new one is not that wide.

posted December 04, 2011 11:36 (
)
t-money's Avatargold
Tony Murillo
60,000
Insider Points

Greg! YES! Glad I’m not the only 1 that does that. My kids say that my work area in the garage is where toys go to die. I have wire from a pop up tent, a 4 bar linkage from a relatively simple toy, springs, assorted other parts, fabrics from toys, tents and toy bags or carrying cases, book bags as well as the other stuff I pick up that my wife tolerates…….and of course 6 colors of duct tape. Their old broken toys fed the design on 1 of my Rawlings entries.

The ability I find the most useful is the ability to conceptualize and toys or other broken stuff is a great place to start.

posted December 04, 2011 11:24 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

As far as Yo-Yo’s go, my first associations would be the bruises I got on my arm and legs when attempting
to learn tricks, so, my first inclination would be a small weighted “inner” yo-yo with a semi-hard foam shell
around it that would absorb the impact against the body/head/wall/etc etc etc.

Greg – So you don’t think his ragging of Roger is BS?

Scooter – The instrument is a “Needle Injector”, used in the ‘setting of features’ phase. (email sent out of respect)

posted December 04, 2011 11:03 (
)
scooternauman's Avatargold
john"Scooter" nauman
49,000
Insider Points

LOL Penster. I know it’s gonna hurt but I just gotta know.

posted December 04, 2011 10:34 (
)
penster's Avatargold
Penster .
205,500
Insider Points

Scooter…………nooooooo

posted December 04, 2011 10:30 (
)
corsaire's Avatargold
Greg Rotz
53,000
Insider Points

Not EVERYone, Frank.

Glad to see a thread on creativity hit 120 posts; maybe we can keep it from getting removed?

Roger, completely agree on taking things apart; I love it when one of my son’s toys breaks and he brings it to me… even if I can’t fix it. But what blows my mind is looking at the number of parts in a toy compared to the price point. I think there’s one trick in manufacturing that makes a huge difference and toys do well: tolerances. If parts have to work very precisely then mfg cost will sky-rocket because quality control gets well into the diminishing returns area.

Other favorites of mine are three of my employer’s resources: howstuffworks.com and the shows How It’s Made, and Factory Made.

Another thing I like to do is buying a new art/crafting material, encourages we to experiment and play with things. Tools, too, somehow the more things I Could do with stuff I have the more things I think of doing.

posted December 04, 2011 10:24 (
)
scooternauman's Avatargold
john"Scooter" nauman
49,000
Insider Points

Amen Frank! I know I’m gonna regret asking this but I’m gonna anyway. Frank, what exactly is that tool used for?

posted December 04, 2011 10:23 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

Disclaimer: I’m not labeling anyone, just sharing some information I found interesting from the Mayo Clinic.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is one of a group of conditions called dramatic personality disorders.
People with narcissistic personality disorder are typically described as arrogant, conceited, self-centered and haughty.
Because they imagine themselves as superior to others, they often insist on possessing items that reflect a successful lifestyle.
Despite this exaggerated self-image, they are reliant on constant praise and attention to reinforce their self-esteem.
As a result, those with narcissistic personality disorder are usually very sensitive to criticism, which is often viewed as a personal attack.

What Are the Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

In many cases, people with narcissistic personality disorder:
(1) Are self-centered and boastful
(2) Seek constant attention and admiration
(3) Consider themselves better than others
(4) Exaggerate their talents and achievements
(5) Believe that they are entitled to special treatment
(6) Are easily hurt but may not show it
(7) Set unrealistic goals
(8) May take advantage of others to achieve their goals

Other common traits of narcissistic personality disorder include the following:
(1) Preoccupation with fantasies that focus on unlimited success, power, intelligence, beauty, or love
(2) Belief that he or she is “special” and unique, and can only be understood by other special people
(3) Expectation that others will automatically go along with what he or she wants, and becomes vengeful if they don’t.
(4) Inability to recognize or identify with the feelings, needs, and viewpoints of others
(5) Envy of others or a belief that others are envious of him or her.
(6) Hypersensitivity to insults (real or imagined), criticism, or “truth”, possibly reacting with rage, shame and humiliation
(7) Arrogant behavior and/or attitude

THE most reliable outward synptom of NPD is Projection!
In projection, a characteristic of themselves that they find just too painful to accept is projected onto us.
“I’m not a heckler. YOU are a heckler.” Another common and difficult defense mechanism is blame shifting.
“It’s your fault my plan failed because blah, blah blah blah…”

They feel better when they can get us to carry the burden of their illness and their irrational behavior.
-—-
Like the Colonel, it’s my most sincere wish that you would just be “one of the gang”, Chappy, instead of presenting
yourself as the savior of the gang…. as I’ve said before, you are destroying your charcter and reputation with the
continued BS, and btw, EVERYone recognizes it as BS, except you!

Unk must have “Serialized” a route to Miami? <;-)

posted December 04, 2011 09:36 (
)
penster's Avatargold
Penster .
205,500
Insider Points

Tony…….that is a great analogy! Arthur Spooner comes to mind….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=QykNhy7...

Colonel Unk no doubt knows a secret route for that 3 hour ride…..hmm…Gilligan.

A fraction of my reality…. I will be updating from my phone,,,,LMAO

posted December 04, 2011 09:17 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Another method of expanding your creativity is to make use of those products that break down you were going to throw away. Try taking them apart to see how they work. Look at how some of the mechanical parts merge or function. Understanding how things function can give you good insight into what it would take to build your own products.

posted December 04, 2011 09:05 (
)
cander09's Avatarname search
Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin

Chappy,
So you are a different person here than in person? If you have that luxury, be that other guy here.

Todays agenda lays out like this:

Church
Brunch
Drive to Miami for the Dolphins vs. Raiders Game Better make church and the brunch very quick; the game starts at 1pm :)

posted December 04, 2011 07:33 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

LOL Tony, I think you have hit the nail on the head. I believe everyone has seen that Uncle Chappy is the expert on everything, but can prove nothing. He just likes to hear himself talk no matter if it is the truth for not.
This has gone on long enough and Uncle Chappy has proven my point for me that he can’t accept an answer he doesn’t like and he lies. So, moving on I will tell you my new daily subject to think on is Yo-Yo’s.

And to head Uncle Chappy off at the pass I will go ahead and put his next post for him.

What does your Yo-Yo look like?
What does it do?
How do you make it original?
How do you commercialize it?
How do you make it profitable?
What is the value proposition?
What would you change?
How would you select that thing that you would change?
How is it original?

Are you working with a toy company looking for Yo-Yo’s?

: )

posted December 04, 2011 07:16 (
)
t-money's Avatargold
Tony Murillo
60,000
Insider Points

LOL Colonel. In a way Chappy is at all of our Thanksgiving dinners. We’ve all got that 1 uncle that shows up once the whole meal is prepared, everybody shares a knowing glance and roll their eyes. Doesn’t matter how great the meal is, he’s had a juicier turkey, less lumpy gravy, sweeter sweet potatoes, butterier mashed potatoes, moister stuffing and he has advice on how to achieve all of these things, mind you, but never brings anything to the table except angst. Perhaps we should all call him Uncle Chappy!

posted December 04, 2011 07:04 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Moving right along… Then colonel, you would certainly be assuming incorrectly. When ones entire reality is based on blogging. A blog becomes a main focus.

Todays agenda lays out like this:

Church
Brunch
Drive to Miami for the Dolphins vs. Raiders Game
tonight baking cookies and decorating the christmas tree with pandora pumping the christmas tunes.
That is outside:
the products that I am designing
The real estate deals that I am working on
and reviewing the documents to purchase a RE/Max franchise.

We have chosen to decorate in blue and silver with white lights to showcase the crystal ornaments we purchased on closeout last year. I literally spend 5 minutes at a time here maybe an hour if nothing else is going on, it is a fraction of my reality. I think you would find my company quite pleasing. Heck I already got invited to some sort of chocolate pie yoga soiree on here that I had to disregard and decline, I am in such high demand these days… LOL! That was meant to be funny.

Have a good day! church is waitingI will be updating from my phone.
Ta Ta for now.

posted December 04, 2011 07:04 (
)
cander09's Avatarname search
Colonel Steve "Chris" Austin

Chappy, I have to believe sitting with you for a nice Thanksgiving meal or even buying real estate is exactly like sitting in a dental chair getting a double root canal w/o anesthetics. Although I admit; the root canal would be a tad bit more comfortable. Move on already! Really!

posted December 04, 2011 06:28 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy, as predicted you can’t prove your accusations and try and redirect away from your lies. If I am wrong show your proof. It can all be resolved by you simply showing proof of your accusations. Become transparent. Gain some conviction and show your proof or are you afraid of being exposed as a liar? The more you post and don’t show your proof only goes to prove you are lying.

I didn’t fail to answer your questions. I answered them multiple times. You just didn’t like the answer. That doesn’t change the answer.
Go back and READ Greg’s explaination of what this thread was about. You are the one that is off topic. Actually if you bothered to READ the thread it was a daily exercise and so todays subject I am thinking on is totally different.

Chappy, if I stated that due to the down turn in the economy you are having your house foreclosed on and it is causing marital problems, so you and your wife are going to counseling, would that be an accurate statement? Wouldn’t you want me to show proof of that statement since you know it is inaccurate? That is the same thing I am asking of you and your statements. Show the proof of your statements or are they lies? It is that simple.

posted December 04, 2011 06:05 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Roger,
You Fail to answer questions yet demand your questions to be answered. That is not fair.

The subject today is shovels… Don’t get off topic of the thread. Focus sir.

Gumby was a claymation character that could contort into anything he needed to be at the moment. He had no bones.

posted December 04, 2011 05:46 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy, if I stated that due to the down turn in the economy you are having your house foreclosed on and it is causing marital problems, so you and your wife are going to counseling, would that be an accurate statement? Wouldn’t you want me to show proof of that statement since you know it is inaccurate? That is the same thing I am asking of you and your statements. Show the proof of your statements below. Or is it you can’t because you know they are lies. Become transparent. Gain some conviction and show your proof or are you afraid of being exposed as a liar?

“His Lessons are ultra valuable and at the same time he has given up being a successful inventor to be a mentor. His success rate has dropped and he now sells his method of doing things in CD and DVD format to supplement and he does not know how he does what he does.”

As I said above “You don’t live with me or see what I do on a daily basis, yet you post things as if you have this grand insight, which you don’t”.

Now, if you follow your normal predictable pattern you won’t answer the questions, you will just post some other statement to try and redirect the topic. Prove me wrong by actually posting the proof of your statements and I will admit I was wrong.

posted December 04, 2011 04:27 (
)
penster's Avatargold
Penster .
205,500
Insider Points

Who Knew?

Removal

Unlike ticks, leeches do not burrow into the skin nor will they leave a poisonous head in the wound. Despite this, many myths abound about removing leeches. The simplest way is with salt: a shake onto the body and most will quickly drop off. Tea tree oil or vinegar dabbed onto the body are also effective alternatives. Less queasy victims may prefer to scorch them with cigarettes or lighters. Otherwise, simply pull the little bloodsuckers off!

It is probably a good idea to get a fresh wad of cotton wool and dab a little tea tree oil onto the open wound to prevent infection. While leeches are not known to spread disease, a particular type of bacteria has been identified in their stomachs which may be passed onto the host.

posted December 04, 2011 00:09 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Roger I owe you as much explanation as you owe me. become transparent. Gain some conviction, stand up and stand for something. You are like gumby. Just be something with identification. build a brand!

posted December 03, 2011 20:06 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Frank,
See, sir that is how you like to heckle. Bravo… You are trying to antagonize me or belittle me… That is ok. I can take that. For you to say that people do it everyday, that is right! That is exacatly what you do. I know it and have defined the methodology. It is not overthinking anything and can be done in no time. It is a programmable capability. It is a methodology, it is teachable and it can be standardized. To simplify and master the nuances is the key.

You and Roger have accused on many occasions that I overthink things. I feel that I oversimplify things and the ideation process is very quick. Thanks for changing your mind.

posted December 03, 2011 20:01 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy, this is typical of how you do things. You make accusations without any proof and when asked to show the proof you want to change the subject so you don’t have to back up what you wrote.
You need to get your facts straight before you post things you know nothing about. Where do you get your information to post I have given up being a successful Inventor to be a mentor and my success rate has dropped? And the statement “he does not know how he does what he does” is just insulting. I can’t help you don’t understand my answers or it doesn’t satisfy you. That is your problem not mine. I thought Greg did a great job trying to explain it to you.

“His Lessons are ultra valuable and at the same time he has given up being a successful inventor to be a mentor. His success rate has dropped and he now sells his method of doing things in CD and DVD format to supplement and he does not know how he does what he does.”

If you look I have been posting on this site since it started years ago, so that is nothing new. I put the CDs out a year ago and have gotten other product contracts at the same time. I have two kitchen products being released at the upcoming Housewares show in March. And I have several other projects I am doing consulting work for companies. You don’t live you me or see what I do on a daily basis, yet you post things as if you have this grand insight, which you don’t. You don’t see me commenting on how well or bad you are doing in the real estate market because I don’t have a clue how you are doing.
I will tell you the same thing I told another person that likes to post things as if they are fact. Show the proof or keep your comments to yourself.

posted December 03, 2011 19:54 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

Chappy wrote: “Nope Frank, that was a thread that was stopped and sir that is rehashing the past.”

Mike and a couple others were wondering why you seem to be attacking Roger, so I was showing them

where you said two months ago that you would call him on his instructional post.

“The topic here is different methods of creativity, mine is Serialization, what is yours?”

You’re exactly right, that is the topic! Already in this thread I have detailed two methods I use.

“I serialize the products of a genre………………………………………………………………………..
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
…………………………………………………………….. a lot of benefits to the Serialization process”

Chappy, you have laid claim, assigned a name, and spelled-out what most people who “Think-On-Their-Feet”
do naturally all the time! They will walk down an isle in the store and something catches their eye… they
pick it up, turn it around a few times, and have a 1,000 yard stare in their eyes…. if their wife says “Honey, I am
pregnant”, he doesn’t hear her… if the store announces a 100% off Blue-Light-Special on isle seven, he’s oblivious,
for within his head the gears are turning hard! What’s he doing? He’s performing the EXACT same task you have
to write down and analize, but he’ll come upon the answers MUCH sooner than you because he/she is THINKING ON
THIER FEET! If a Fighter Pilot serialized the situation, he’d find himself floating to earth under silk or floating to heaven
under Angels! He see’s a situation, assesses it, and responds to it.
If one drives a vehicle out on the roads at all, and DIDN’T think on their feet, they’d be dead now!

You have went to great lengths to document the process, and with all the work you’ve put into it some feel obligated
to compliment you, but honestly, it’s something most of us do several times a day NATURALLY and don’t even realize it!

Some, for different reasons, do not have the ability to think on their feet, infact, they couldn’t smooch the old lady
without consulting an instruction manual. They strive to replace “creativity” with a standardized “method”.
Some are just not creative in the ways required to be a product developer, just like some take guitar lessons for years
and still are no good because they don’t have an APTITUDE for it! Inventing retail quality products are the same way!

“What do you do Frank?”

Well, today I used one of these three different times!

posted December 03, 2011 19:49 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

I am done with it. I don’t feel that I need to answer your questions. I have seen “Coaches” like you in real estate that sell their materials and cannot be approached on their method because they don’t have one… but they have a set of cd’s that can teach you how to do it because they did it and made millions. I was truly hoping you were better than that but your not.

Roger, today the topic is shovels. How do you get your mind rolling?
posted December 03, 2011 19:39 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy still waiting on your explaination of where you got your wrong so called facts to say:

“His Lessons are ultra valuable and at the same time he has given up being a successful inventor to be a mentor. His success rate has dropped and he now sells his method of doing things in CD and DVD format to supplement and he does not know how he does what he does.”

As I said above “You don’t live with me or see what I do on a daily basis, yet you post things as if you have this grand insight, which you don’t”.

posted December 03, 2011 17:12 (
)
ring-go's Avatargold
Michael Heagerty
404,500
Insider Points

What humor?..LOL…no, really…LOL!

posted December 03, 2011 17:07 (
)
051263's Avataree_badge
greg bruce
111,750
Insider Points

I appreciate that Chris and glad I could bring a little humor to this but Greg M. deserves the credit for his artful efforts. A prime example of exhausting oneself for a good cause and creating a great faux pas. He was good natured enough to have fun with it.
Stick around here and you will become oblivious to my humor if you’re lucky : )

posted December 03, 2011 16:13 (
)
chriscam8's Avatargold
Chris Campbell
117,500
Insider Points

dang can’t believe I missed all the baseball analogies………………….Greg Bruce, I vote you for post of the year. Often times when I write LOL I do not really LOL. Well this time I did! :)

posted December 03, 2011 15:16 (
)
chappy75's Avatargold
James Chapman
155,750
Insider Points

Nope Frank, that was a thread that was stopped and sir that is rehashing the past. The topic here is different methods of creativity, mine is Serialization, what is yours?

I serialize the products of a genre of a product for ideas and then I serialize the elements of a product once I choose one to evolve. If there is a fuctionality that is not covered by the group then I serialize the activity and I figure how that activity has been accomplished in history. If it is a complex method of multiple steps then I serialize the steps and select the elements of the products that comprise the activities solution. Once I have a complete serialization of the situation and the products that are essential in the method to solve the problem. then I can assemble the solution and I have learned to wander the halls of patents and study similar products for proper verbiage and parts’ identification. There are a lot of benefits to the Serialization process…

What do you do Frank?

This thread is about methods of Creativity!

posted December 03, 2011 14:18 (
)
rogerbrown's Avataren_staff_badge
Roger Brown
Insider Points

Chappy, you need to get your facts straight before you post things you know nothing about. Where do you get your information to post I have given up being a successful Inventor to be a mentor and my success rate has dropped? And the statement “he does not know how he does what he does” is just insulting. I can’t help you don’t understand my answers or it doesn’t satisfy you. That is your problem not mine. I thought Greg did a great job trying to explain it to you.

“His Lessons are ultra valuable and at the same time he has given up being a successful inventor to be a mentor. His success rate has dropped and he now sells his method of doing things in CD and DVD format to supplement and he does not know how he does what he does.”

If you look I have been posting on this site since it started years ago, so that is nothing new. I put the CDs out a year ago and have gotten other product contracts at the same time. I have two kitchen products being released at the upcoming Housewares show in March. And I have several other projects I am doing consulting work for companies. You don’t live you me or see what I do on a daily basis, yet you post things as if you have this grand insight, which you don’t. You don’t see me commenting on how well or bad you are doing in the real estate market because I don’t have a clue how you are doing.
I will tell you the same thing I told another person that likes to post things as if they are fact. Show the proof or keep your comments to yourself.

posted December 03, 2011 14:05 (
)
let-them-fly's Avatargold
Frank White
38,000
Insider Points

From Roger’s “Lesson #32” two months ago:

Roger will hav eto have people come rescue him on every corner because I am one to call him out. * I call monopoly foul. Roger’s are not the only concepts that are allowed to exist, contrary to popular belief.”

Roger’s “concepts”, and what I supported in the SOC thread, were doing ones due diligence on a project BEFORE wasting time and money developing it; the BASICS! Chappy insisted there are NEW “ways”/“methods” that can replace the old ways…. Roger and I stated if an inventor ignores the basics they WILL fail, and ask for proof an invention can be developed and be worthy of commercialization without the BASICS. This was our “heckling”.

Chappy, there is a record of EVERY POST that had been made on here; copy/paste ONE where Roger and/or I was “heckling” you? Well, go ahead!

posted December 03, 2011 13:41 (
)



« Return to the forums index page