Beadle Rock
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I fear I may have gotten off on the wrong foot with a few people here or perhaps stuck my foot in my mouth… (Pick whichever metaphor works best for you), but I thought folks might just find this interesting. Some people here may have heard of something called “Briggs Myers Typology”. It basically consists of a personality test that asks a wide range of questions. It then classifies the user into 1 of 16 basic personality types based on their answers. I’ve found it extremely useful in my past professional career and have met many others who swear by it. It can be an excellent tool for helping people understand each other and communicate better. You can take the test here:
Humanmetrics[dot]com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
Once you complete it you’ll find out which type best describes you. I’ve done this MANY times and I come out as an INTJ without question every time I take it. (INTJ’s make up only about 1% of the population as a whole so perhaps that’s why people sometimes see me as an odd duck!) Here’s what the INTJ profile looks like:
Typelogic[dot]com/intj.html
If you check out that page you’ll see links to all the other types at the top and at the bottom the various relationships the types tend to have towards one another. It’s a really fun exercise and you’ll probably find out some things about yourself that you may not have known or perhaps confirm some things you may have suspected. Perhaps once people have tried taking the test and gotten their type they can post their results on this thread and it will make for an interesting discussion. There’s no cost or obligation!
One last thing: You might ask why one would take the test more than once? That all depends on how strongly the attributes associated with the four letters are expressed. In individuals for whom one or more attributes are only mildly expressed they may get a slightly different result when taking the very same test a few weeks later. Hence, it’s entirely possible that many people could fall somewhere between a couple of the basic types. The only way to find out is to give it a go!
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ralf chlipalski
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Chappy, assumptions, assumptions maybe on both our parts. The reason came from head office and my boss swears he was not asked for any input. He’s never given me any kind of performance review so maybe he’s too timid to express his opinions to me. He was the one who told me to apply so he could save on overhead fees. Wow, we differ by one letter but we’re so different or maybe the same.
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Frank White
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I agree, Karl; there are far too may variables in each individuals daily life to form
an accurate depiction of their personality. People are like dynomite, and the only thing
you can be sure of, is there’s NOTHING you can be sure of!
There’s one particular personality disorder I like to call the “Groundhog Day” syndrom, and it
occurs after someone becomes disenchanted, disliked, and/or disenfranchised with their
identity/agenda/motivations in certain “cyber” organizations, but instead of just moving on, they
create a new identity in order to “start over”, “even the score”, or “alter their approach”?
They also fancy themselves smart enough to not be discovered, but personal passions are
near impossible to hide, and become like a flashing neon sign. Like the Bible says, “Out of
the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh” (or fingers type) lol
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James Chapman
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Lol Ralph,
That is low hanging fruit and too easy. Well, do you think that after 5 years they raandomly chose to do a random personality test or after 5 years in that position management might have looked for a reason to reassigned you into a valuable roll? I understand sing-a-grams is possibility…lol j/k…
Perhaps the company was in dire straits financially and wanted to downsize you out or perhaps it was performance based. There is no reason to make a staff change with 5 of performance to rely on… not due to a personality test. We are considering firing our lead assistant. Three people couldn’t do her job as efficiently as she does. She is getting sloppy though, coming in late and missing deadlines overall poor attitude. Just because she is really good does not mean she is the right person for the job. I could personality test her and tell her that the position is not suited for her. That would be cheesy though and the easy way out. In stead I sent her home for 3 days on her sick time. She is back to work now performing great and she on probation pending a 2 week review while she trains 2 new assistants that will be taking her job if she is fired at her review. I call it “newly motivated”.
The point is that performance always supercedes personality test which we did in the beginning. We use the DISC test.
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Beadle Rock
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Again, I caution folks against reading too much into this one diagnostic tool. Unless the various attributes of your profile are strongly expressed, there’s a good chance that you may not agree with the results. Also, the fact that they like to draw comparisons to both living and fictional individuals should be taken with a grain of salt. I’m not aware that ANY of the individuals used as examples of the various types have ever actually taken the test. For instance, as an INTJ I like being compared to Thomas Jefferson and Woodrow Wilson but being compared to Hannibal Lecter and Professor Moriarty… uhhhh… not so much! ;)
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Fleta Sykes
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AWWWWWWWWE, thanks Charlie. I have kinda been ‘missing in action’. I’ve been quietly lurking and keeping up with everyone :)
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Charlie Lumsden
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ralf chlipalski
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I was thinking of a specific example. I was told to take a BMJ test to move from contractor to employee. Even though I’ve worked 5 years in this position, I was told the test revealed I was unsuitable for it. I answered the questions honestly but since I’m stuck in a deep rut anyway, I should have manipulated the test to at least get paid more for what I hate doing.
The BEST BMJ test result would be one which agrees with what you like doing so I’m very happy with getting an ENTP unmanipulated. I have no spirituality to align with and do not believe I am the greatest force in my existence. I believe there is me and everything that is not me and these two things are in an endless feedback loop influencing each other. I believe everything that is not me gives me a little packet of destiny that I must become aware of and execute over time; Achieving awareness of purpose is one of the things life’s about.
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James Chapman
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Well Ralf, you salty cantankerous coon-dog you…
If you are going to manipulate the test to be what you want it to be because it is so transparent then It would seem that the test would be most accurate for the most manipulative person. This would hold true because a person who wanted to manipulate the test would be able to get the answers most consistent with what that person would believe is the BEST personality. That is subjective at best. The test can result differently in different phases of your life as well it should be. Mine was accurate… I don’t like it and can see where the flaws are in that personality; it was accurate nonetheless.
In saying as much, What do personality do you want to be Ralf? Once you know your personality and you align it with your spirituality then you will be in sync with your intention. If you give up relying on yourself and seek to exist within this existence trusting in a force greater than yourself then you could find your spirit aligned with the universes purpose for you.
If you are the greatest force in your existence, does that sadden you?
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ralf chlipalski
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Maybe it is like a horoscope but the results seem uncannily agreeable for such a seemingly flawed test. Only a few of the questions had definitive yes or no answers. The rest were dependent on mood or recent recollections. I wonder if the test were made multiple choice with a range of no, rarely, mostly and yes answers, would it be less accurate. I don’t get why weak answers would have the same value as strong answers unless contradictory answers to similar questions weeded out the weak answers. But then knowing this could manipulate the results especially for job applications which are using this type of testing more and more. It seems like panning for gold flecks in the sand where the flecks are what makes each of us different from mostly sand. Anyway, I feel way more confident in my life direction after taking the test especially after consulting with this weekend’s horoscope.
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Charlie Lumsden
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True Karl, Jung was a good man. If there was a test to make us realize ourselves,without having to go within. But then everything would be simple like God.
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karl reed
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It was fun to do the test but to be honest I don’t really place a lot of value on such things…whatever I am i’m comfortable with it and a personality test is not something that is going to influence me in any way,basically it’s not important to me.
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Charlie Lumsden
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Nobody is missing….I must have been un aware of her presence in the forums.
Beatlemania..thank you for being you. you will love it here
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Beadle Rock
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Karl, do you remember how strongly the the F & J components were expressed? If they were only mildly expressed you could take it again next week and perhaps you would be an ISTP. I think a lot of people fall in the middle somewhere. I mean when you think about it, there are SO MANY people in the world it’s probably a little simplistic to think we all break down into just 16 different “types”.
Charlie, haven’t been here long enough to know Fleta had been missing! ;)
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Charlie Lumsden
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Welcome Bettlenut, thanks for your interesting posts.. and bringing Fleta back to the forums. Hope your holidays were full of peace. Fleta the ohana missed you !! BIG TYMES GIRL:)))))))). Your Smile..Contajes
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karl reed
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Well I ran the test twice and came up ISFJ both times yet the discription for ISTP seems to be a much better fit so ?? mabe I’m a mixed breed LOL!
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Beadle Rock
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Fleta Sykes
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Betsy .
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HAR-DY, HAR, HAR! Would love to sit with ya in your comfy kitchen and we could do some real HAR-ing together! <|;-)
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Fairin Antonio
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LOL lOL lolololl lol i cant quit lol Charlie…. Funny i just knew it… cuz well as you know i have always thought you and Michael were brothers… and i am connected to you as sister… so it only goes to show… !!!! and yes for sure NOTHING is forever !!! Life is about change… how else could there be a eternity… oops did i say that ??? HAR !!!
PS… Betsy is Comfy with her inner ESFJ to say HAR… !!!! She says it every once in a while and makes me SMILE !!!!
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Charlie Lumsden
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You guessed me Farin…ENFJ Could maybe guessed it before the test.
You know the funny thing..I took the test as remembering what I was three years ago. EFSP. So I came to this knowing ..everything changes. Love ya
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Beadle Rock
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Not to worry, the kitty is curled up in front of a warm fire now…
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Sherri .
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I must teeter between the “J” and the “P”…with that INF because when I took the test like this, I was more of a “P”. (still Librarian there, though! eesh)
http://www.personalitydesk.com/personality-type...
I think another wonderful, great thing about EN is that it can help draw out the stronger “E and N” features in all of us…maybe we should just add ENer to those four basic letters! he-he!
Ex: My husband may share the same type of personality as Biskit as an ISTP…but unlike Kevin, he is not an ISTP-ENer and doesn’t really care to explore his creative/inventive side much or “kicking it up” with others who enjoy innovation/inventing/thinking outside of the box, etc.
Isn’t it like Edison Nation challenges that [I+S] to being more of an [E+N]?
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Michael Heagerty
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Fairin, I’ve yet HARness such powers, but I shall work to further my inner pirate…
Beadle, I’ll pay for the first Month if you would just let that poor kitty in! :)
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Fairin Antonio
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HEY Michael… Brother Friend n PERSONALITY TYP OOOOO …. HAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can’t say har cuz your not as COMFY with your INNER ENFJ yet…. :)))) just wait… you will get there one day,… don’t sweet the small stuff :)))))
Where the heck is Charlie… i bet he will be a ENFJ too !!! OH CHARRRRRRRRLIE where are you ?????? Come hither !!!!
OH and FRANK…. i bet you will buddy up with …. INFJ…. just guessing or should i say predicting ????
PEACE n one big HAR for Michael… giggle
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Beadle Rock
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Dammit! I hit the post button before I was done! Don’t tell me, lemme guess, only insiders can edit their post, right? Okay, NBD…
To continue with what I was about to say,
Basically for each portion it’s either E or I, N or S, F or T then J or P. Those stand for as follows:
E = Extraverted
I = Introverted
N = Intuitive
S = Sensing
F = Feeling
T = Thinking
J = Judging
P = Perceiving
So for people whose types are identical, one would expect they would either get along famously, OR possibly just the opposite, end up butting heads! Clearly some types compliment each other more than others. For example, the difference between the ENTJ (Field Marshall) and INTJ (Mastermind) is simply that one is more extroverted and the other is more introverted. It’s been my experience that those two types tend to compliment each other quite well. The same might also be said of and ENFP and an ENTP and so on. But of course NONE of this is absolute because of the varying DEGREES to which the different attributes are expressed. BTW, every time I’ve taken it the “I” component has ALWAYS been Strongly expressed. One might not think that when reading my posts but remember, this is cyberspace, if we were in a face-to-face situation chances are I would be perceived quite differently. Perhaps EN should consider making this sort of thing an option that people could add to their profiles and include a link to the test. Something to ponder at least… ;)
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Beadle Rock
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Okay, it look like people are having some fun with this which is great. It’s been a little while since I actually did it but if memory serves, when you get your four letter designation they typically indicate whether the four major catagories are Strongly Expressed, Moderately Expressed or Slightly Expressed (at least I THINK those are the adjectives used). The reason this may be relevent goes back to what I said earlier and that is, if you end up with one or more that are only Slightly Expressed it’s quite possible you could answer those very same questions the following day and come out with a different type. I would imagine one’s mood or state of mind at the time might also affect the result.
Basically for each portion it’s either E or I, N or S,
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Betsy .
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Good job Michael, Har, ha, or ho-ho-ho!
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Michael Heagerty
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Oh look! I’m with Fairin! Does this mean that I have to learn to say Har? because I’m not sure that I’m comfortable with that…haha!
[ENFP] Amy D., Scooter,
[INFP]
[ENFJ] Fairin, Michael
[INFJ] Pen, Sherri,
[ESTJ] Eric M.,
[ISTJ] Duz’s wife
[ESFJ] Betsy,
[ISFJ]
[ENTP] Ralf,
[INTP] Greg R.,
[ENTJ] Chappy, Duz,
[INTJ] Beadle, Carla, Mark S.
[ESTP]
[ISTP] Biskit, Sherri’s hubby,
[ESFP]
[ISFP]
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Betsy .
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Mark, he quit his job. You may have to take over and revise the list. :-)
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Mark Stark
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Kevin, You have me in the wrong place. I’m with Beadle and Carla at INTJ
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Alan Jackson
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Biz.. she is ISTJ .. in a category ALL by herself!! lol
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kevin da biskit
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…unretired
[ENFP] Amy D., Scooter,
[INFP]
[ENFJ] Fairin, Michael
[INFJ] Pen, Sherri,
[ESTJ] Eric M.,
[ISTJ] Duz’s wife
[ESFJ] Betsy,
[ISFJ]
[ENTP] Ralf,
[INTP] Greg R.,
[ENTJ] Chappy, Duz, Mark S.,
[INTJ] Beadle, Carla
[ESTP]
[ISTP] Biskit, Sherri’s hubby,
[ESFP]
[ISFP]
…and Sherri, I have the same type as your hubby (whew, not alone out there), but y’all may recall I jumped out of a plane this past year. And a year ago Xmas, I gave the fam gift cards for introductory scuba lessons for us to do together. But they all seem to be busy when I try to coordinate the venture. hmmmm. So here the certificates sit…a year later. Soooooo ISTP.
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Alan Jackson
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lol… well her results are in.. ISTJ. Only one away from ESTJ. Not sure what the characteristic differences are between the two but trust me, it’s close enough to make it “interesting”
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Sherri .
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I found a couple of these questions were “iffy” for me too, so I answered these as “is currently” to be true.
What totally blew my mind is that I just asked my husband to take this test. I thought for sure that with him being almost the total opposite of me (hey, opposites attract, right?) that he would come up as an “E” of some sort? But nope…he came up as an ISTP!!! Lucky for him too, he’s enjoyed many, many years in his “suitable” career field as an experienced, master R.V. technician, but sometimes misses being his own boss/running his own business.
This test had many of his fave hobbies pegged down too…though he hasn’t jumped out of many planes and been scuba diving much lately…his equipment is out in the garage somewhere! Wow!!
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Michael Heagerty
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Michael and Oprah and Sean Connery and Diane Sawyer and Tommy Lee Jones and…and…seems to go on forever…I’m just picking some favorites. haha!
To be honest, when it comes down to yes or no answers, there were so many that I could have gone either way with…who knows what tomorrow will bring…;-)
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Penster .
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Michael…..and Oprah! Things are funny……if you look at em right…….squinting. LOL
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Michael Heagerty
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Ok, just took the test and missed it by one letter…it appears that I am an ENFJ…
When I made the statement about the ENFP, I had no idea that it really existed and when you posted the pic. Pen, I had no idea that it was for real! Way too funny!
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Penster .
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Betsy….let’s make it a barrel….
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Betsy .
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I really want Luis and Papa Jim to take the test. Can we put them in a corner together with a bottle of Vino?
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kevin da biskit
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Oh, all right. I’ll step way out of my type and make the grid and try to make Jane proud…
[ENFP] Amy D., Scooter,
[INFP]
[ENFJ] Fairin
[INFJ] Pen, Sherri,
[ESTJ] Eric M.,
[ISTJ]
[ESFJ] Betsy,
[ISFJ]
[ENTP] Ralf,
[INTP] Greg R.,
[ENTJ] Chappy, Duz, Mark S.,
[INTJ] Beadle, Carla
[ESTP]
[ISTP] Biskit
[ESFP]
[ISFP]
Have at it. I retire!
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James Chapman
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Scored out to be…
ENTJ- Rational (Fieldmarshal)
Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is the marshaling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in the Fieldmarshal. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal’s intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercise tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills.
Hardly more than two percent of the total population, Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, they simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that they have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are – to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures.
They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, marshaling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input.
Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field – medicine, law, business, education, government, the military – Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshal, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people’s feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations – and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.
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Alan Jackson
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Penster .
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Michael Heagerty
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Pen, I wan’t to laugh so bad…but I can’t because I forgot to inhale! ;-)
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Alan Jackson
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Penster.. I found my way to the link once that showed those pictures and comparisons but cant find my way back there..
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Penster .
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Hey Sherri! My ears resemble that……….thank goodness my hair covers them………most of the time! LOL
Michael……

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Sherri .
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Hey Penny…Wow—we came up as the same personality type!!! Maybe a new avatar for us? Hehehaha!

Michael…your test results should reveal that you’re highly gifted at discovering/exploring EN FP phenomenons!! :-D
(Won’t it be funny if you do come up as a ENFP??!!)
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kevin da biskit
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Duz…in the descrp of yours it says something about getting on a mission …oh man I’m LOL too hard to type!
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Michael Heagerty
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Sherri, that is uncanny!
You guys are going to force me to take this test at some point today…I hate test! But before I do, is there an ENFP?
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Penster .
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INFJ….oops
Sherri….spot on, you are the research Queen!
Kev….hmmmm
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