Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Let me explain to those who seem to be very knew in this field and are looking for Everyday Edison or some other invention company to take them to all the glory.
In this business you take a shot…and then another…and another….and hope one person eventually sees what you do. My inventions including Handi-Straps, maybe half of the manufacturers etc. saw potential and the others saw or see a difficult journey which they passed on and their reasons may be just personal and not typical in the market. It just may be too difficult for them and they don’t have the specific talent pool that your invention needs.
I attended an Everyday Edison casting call and had a WONDERFUL time. I was invited because Inventors Digest did a big coverage on my Handi-Straps. There were many booths with inventor’s related interest as well as some fine speakers giving seminars. The overall excitement of all the inventors was highly contagious and that was a good thing.
Now get this. EVERYDAY EDISON CANNOT BE EVERYBODY’S SANTA CLAUSE AND IT IS UNFAIR TO ASK THEM…YOU ARE AN INVENTOR…IT IS UP TO YOU TO KEEP TRYING! Rejection does NOT mean your invention is no good!
-Velcro was rejected by many manufacturers for 10 years….nobody thought it was useful
-A U.S. President once said it is ridiculous to think the motor car will someday replace the horse and buggy
-Thomas Edison had to give away light bulbs in the beginning as everyone feared they would start a fire
-People were afraid to eat hot dogs when Nathan’s first invented them or brought the innovation to the U.S. in Coney Island. They had to offer free hot dogs to doctors who would come and eat wearing their white coats. This marketing ploy worked. People saw the doctors eating so they started.
-Bill gates was thought of as a nut, bum and loser trying to get out of the hard way; studying hard at college.
-The inventor of anastesia was actually jailed for a year for trying to kill people.
OK inventor people…you take a shot. Don’t blame Everyday Edison or any manufacturer etc. It is YOUR invention. No company can develop every good idea under the sun…only God could do that if he was in this biz and I don’t know if even he can do that in this economic crisis.
I told Everyday Edison people myself. I said you guys wouldn’t want Handi-Straps. I think it’s one of the most amusing and important inventions of all time and I can win any argument contrary but I MUST POUND THE STREETS AND PROVE TO PEOPLE ONE BY ONE FOR 5 OR 10 YEARS…which is typical and Everyday Edison is just not going to take on that major job for me. My invention has many hurdles and needs approvals that other inventions do not need. I must do myself, and so I am.
One more…at the casting call a fired up inventor came up to me with a product. He had a laptop to show everyone the wonderful news segment he landed too. He invented a mirror cover for cars and trucks that had a strip of material that gets slammed shut in the door (a “tail”) so nobody can steal. The mirror cover kept ice off of the mirror during a storm.
Nice guy, I tried to help him for a while after because I knew how important his invention was and would save some lives and plus I checked with EMTs I knew from testing Handi-Straps. They said they use plastic bags on the rigs but that doesn’t work so well. Their mirrors must be ice free for safety and they don’t have time to scrape ice when called.
Now this guy had a GREAT HONORABLE invention but was turned down by a number of manufacturers and Everyday Edisons and I’ll tell you why. It was a regional product in the northern areas. It was a seasonal product and also not every vehicle needed it as some have heated mirrors. His market was just not big enough to attract the big players…the sad or the glad truth depending which way you look at it. It was a GREAT little venture for him to start off and maybe a few tears down the road he could attract some bigger players.
DON’T get discouraged with Everyday Edisons or any other company. Do you know one of my local newspapers is FINALLY granting me some ink on my invention after 4 YEARS of asking! I’ve had stories written in languages all over the world that I don’t even know what country it is from! That is the way this inventing game works….you take a shot…and you don’t cry about it when you don’t “get through” You need thicker skin than that to win at this.
When I was turned down MANY times, I walked away actually mumbling “idiots” That was my satisfaction of them turning me down…I called them a name and that eased my frustration and then I moved on to take another shot…and you people know me…i keep trying until I get my way and win.
Ron Komorowski
Inventor of Handi-Straps
www.handi-straps.com
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Linda Linda
cattycatranch
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Ya’ know, Ron, I’m glad you’re a good guy. If you had an evil heart, your tenacity would make you downright dangerous. (;^)
Thanks for the advice!
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Joaco Colmenar
vergulito
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My favorite: Xerox declining to commercialize a graphic user interface system, after they themselves developed and proved the system. (They didn’t see applications for the invention!!)
Only to have the two Steves (Apple) take all the credit and profits, but they were themselves later surpassed by that Bill guy who didn’t even build computers.
These guys didn’t even have eggs. They just had some neat baskets, they used to collect the eggs Xerox did not appreciate. You have to admire these people.
Ron, a great thing about the “Edisonians” is that they have MANY baskets. :o)
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K J
kabuj
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Ron… could not have said it any better myself. It’s our responsibiliey (as inventors) to utilize the viable resources available (including EN) to promote our products and ideas with the goal of enabling others to see our vision. When it’s all said and done the market will dictate. It’s just a question of how much time and effort we’re willing to endure while balancing the fine line between prudence and obsession.
As far as EN is concerned… I personally believe that now is a better time then any, to submit products/ideas to EN as I know that they are anxious to find/create successes in order to further validate their service.
Continued success to all.
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Good one Joaco…I’ve read of those before but forgot. Here’s a good one:
IBM used to be a company that made meat grinders and time clocks. The owner came down the stairs one day and told all they would change the name of the company to International Business Machines. All the workers thought the owner completely lost his mind, they were a company that made meat grinders and time clocks.
Anybody have any other stories like this? Inventions that were thought to be examples of insanity by the “experts” and eventually went on to make millions? Mind you…this may be the case 50% of the time….or the inventor just picked the wrong resource to continue development. Everyday Edisons can’t develop every idea under the sun!! Not even the top 10 smartest people in the world could!
If you want a whole book full of inspiring inventions and companies that became from against all odds or by accident, read the best business book for entrepreneurs and inventors I ever read by Robert Kriegal , “If It Ain’t Broke Break It” Written in the early 90’s but it is all about how the “unlikely” became legends with alot of sports references like how Michael Jordan got cut from his freshman high school basketball team. Much women and men’s sports reference as the author is one of the most sought after motivastional speakers for Fortune 100 companies and sports teams including olympics.
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K J
kabuj
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a little closer to home…. AJ Khubani (Telebrands) passed on the “Snuggy”, he stated that it was one of his biggest mistakes".
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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GOOD ONE! FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE…and that put his competitor on the map as the marketer of the Snuggie said that himself, the CEO of All Star Marketing in Westchester County NY. All Star also ran the snow globe plant watering system, Topsy Turvy planter and those green veggie storage bags.
Hey…you just never know…I thought Handi-Straps would have sold millions by now….not yet…still a struggling inventor on a forum trying just as hard as everyone else.
By the way, Telebrands liked Handi-Straps very much but wanted to sell a much cheaper version. I WILL NOT! I will NEVER compromise the quality. There is no reason….and risk safety. Handi-Straps will last a lifetime. $60 is cheap! Plus I take GREAT PRIDE of being made in Houston, Texas USA. I guess we will see who was right. Me or Telebrands.
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Flex Right
dcrook
Gold Member
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Amen Ron!
Amazingly, inventing a product is really the easiest part.
Getting it to market and profiting is more challenging – but totally worth it!
I like this book for inspiration too: Entrepreneur Magazine – Encyclopedia of Entrepreneurs
Amazon Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Entrepreneur-Magazine-Enc...
Dale – www.FlexRight.net
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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You said it Dale….look…I sell worldwide. My sales have also PLUNGED worldwide in this worldwide economic disaster. Maybe Everyday Edisons can’t help people as much as they wish too right now but I assure you one thing…and you guys know I know this field…expect them to be a POWERHOUSE when this economic storm subsides.
I’ll say it again. I have inoperable lung cancer. I’m having my fun running my inventions myself right now but it looks like Everyday Edisons is my choice by far to take over my operations and share the profits with my 13 yr old daughter if anything happens to me. What a deal that would be! They do all the work…even have a publicist pushing my invention for 50%!!!! If I was lucky enough to make the cut…lots of good inventors around here! I am just one of them.
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Chris Bohlin
cjbohlin
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Hey Ron,
I understand your apprehension in selling a lower quality version of your Handi Straps. However maybe your current item could be a professional higher quality version made in the USA like you are now so those that buy it understand it’s meant to last longer and be more durable than one sold on tv. Just a thought.
Cheers, Chris
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Chris, I offer the version I have now because I am the inventor and I know best what is best for the consumer.
My one mistake may be that it is a big surprise to users when they receive and they all say the quality is MUCH better than they expected when they examine close. I like that. How often does that happen with a product???
On the other hand, maybe it’s time for a quality statement on the website along with a video.
I sell to many markets and most inventors will..or many groups of people. I sell to EMTs, military, states and even the CDC bought one. I want to give them A-1 quality.
I don’t think anyone can really ever knock you for offering superior quality but they certainly can for offering a cheap piece of garbage obviously made to break as soon as possible so you need to buy another.
Thanks for your thoughts Chris!
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Chris Bohlin
cjbohlin
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Hi Ron, Thanks for the response. I understand where you are coming from but my thoughts were for a lower cost tv item was so that the general public could benefit from the item. I forgot to add that in the previous message so it probably lost much of the perspective I was trying to bring…
I would imagine many in the trades would be willing to pay $60 to use them but I was thinking all the weekend do it yourselfer’s that would only use it every few months so a lower cost item at Menard’s, Home Depot or Lowe’s could bring them over as a sale. This way you could cover that larger home market and help keep their injuries down plus have the trade industry for the high quality version and possibly sway the DIYers over to the better one if they find they use it often in the process.
I found a couple things that may help you sell them so I’ll send a friend request over shortly and message the info. I think it could help seal the deal with many wavering on the line of to buy or not to buy.
Cheers, Chris
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Chris, people don’t understand when they have never used Handi-Straps. The heavy duty also means comfort as the loads are spread across the webbing better.
If you use it for just 4 hours say for cleaning out the garage it will pay for itself because you will move the stuff in half the time and then you will have Handi-Straps for the rest of your life. It is made that well.
Chris, remember this, some consumers will always complain. You just can’t please everyone. For those that just don’t get it, let them break their ass…maybe some day they will understand. I have many to sell to those that “get it”
Last, if you are the inventor and you know your product, stand your ground for what you know is best! Don’t change because the “market” just doesn’t know any better!!!
Again…as I said earlier in this thread…Thomas Edison had to give away the light bulbs in the beginning. I got people around the world asking me to give them a sample…you know what I want to tell them but I don’t? How about you give me a sample of your money?
That is another thing inventors will face….all the people wanting free samples. I only give free samples to those that write articles about Handi-Straps I tell people.
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
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Hello Ron, i like your original forum it kind of inspired me by reading it because i am going thru that right now with alot of companies interested in my product and it looks like we are going to make the “big Deal” and then something happens where at this time they say we will have to pass, whether they would not make enough profit 3x fold— or they wanted a prototype and possibly wanted to steal my idea, or seeing how i wanted to keep it built in the usa, the material cost right now is too much to make. My product is found at www.leatherlock.netau.net
look at it and give me some info or feedback
You may want to consider what chris said also i don’t think he is asking you to make it cheaper but sell it at a smaller cost and attract thousands of people instead of hundreds of people
Because we are inventors for a few reasons and one of them is too make it rich so try maybe selling your product for $20-$40 to the big companies and attract a big audience you will notice a higher profit margin overall !!!!
Just a suggestion no harm intended i too am looking into doing this with my product
Keep on inventing one of our other reasons is too change the world just a little IN A BETTER WAY and say “THAT WAS MY IDEA” “I CREATED THAT”
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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OK Jason…good idea! I’ll sell for much cheaper. I will get rid of the U.S. employees in Houston Texas and make it in China not giving a damn about U.S. unemployment or the trade deficit.
You are right, WE MUST, WE MUST sell cheap imported China goods until we are all working at Wal-Mart and need food stamps to eat.
I mean…who cares about everyone else…right? I make in China, who cares about the diminished quality as well as lost quality control..just care about ME…ME ME ME. Forget creating jobs for people, building U.S. manufacturing base to build a strong country, a strong military….sell Chinese, Taiwan, India made products. Build their country and make their currency strong…and MORE MONEY FOR ME…and more food stamps for everyone else around me (Last year 30 million on food stamps, this year 25% or something higher they say)
IF I EVER THINK THIS WAY ABOVE SOMEBODY TAPE ME UP, PUT ME IN A BOX AND SHIP ME OVERSEAS!!!!
What happens when we run out of money for bullets in the military to protect ourselves? Will China loan us the money like they are now buying all our bonds? Will we just beg China for more. Well I don’t wanna be a beggar maybe…I wanna get off my ass and make stuff here in the U.S.
It does not matter how much I sell my product for in my own country because the money stays in the economy! Simple math! Why don’t people get it?
Now what is the problem? You get Handi-Straps for 60 bucks and it makes your job half as hard for the rest of your life. Still too much??? You want a Chinese product to save $20 and it will be half the quality with no guarantee?
If you do..please…don’t buy Handi-Straps. It is a serious tool and a medical product. If you think that way, this product is not for you….keep breaking your ass.
NOTE: Sorry to be so harsh but UNTIL all start thinking like me, we will continue to lose our country as we know it and watch other economies and countries become great like China and India BECAUSE THEY MAKE STUFF and we just wanna sell stuff cause we are too lazy. The above is to continue to set an example. Look soon for my stance on national news, it is coming.
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william ricely
williamricely
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I’m inventing a bumper sticker that says, “Buy American Or You’re A Traitor!” lol
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Not anything against anybody here…but I just don’t understand why people don’t get it….if you and I were going off to build a country…on an island somehwere….can we build that country by selling each other imported stuff???
Where the hell would we get the money to buy the stuff??? Selling each other stuff does NOTHING to build a country. We MUST MAKE STUFF…and NOT with all illegal aliens…we gotta do it…break a sweat…work harder!
People just can’t figure it out. I talk to TONS of “used to be” manufacturers…in fact their “sign” still says they are a manufacturer but they have mostly become salesmen now for foreign made goods…distributors…because it is easier.
This is why our country is in a DEPRESSION….and take it from me…one of a very rare that has a historical ability to figure out things others just missed….this country’s entire welfare is in question….and all because we don’t wanna make stuff any more…we all just wanna wheel deal and steal because it is easier just selling each other stuff….until we can’t feed ourselves anymore…then we will see…we can’t afford medical anymore, we see that on the news all day…keep selling China shit…see what happens…
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
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WHOOOAAA !!!! RON I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO, AFTER THINKING OF MY BLOG I NEW YOU WOULD MISINTERPRET THE WORD “CHEAPER” WHAT I MEANT WAS FOR
EXAMPLE: —IF YOUR SELLING THE PRODUCT FOR $60 AND MAKING $30 OFF OF IT PROFIT AND SELLING IT JUST BY YOURSELF AND REACHING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE = 100 UNITS SOLD GROSS PROFIT $6000 SUBTRACT MATERIALS AND LABOR ETC..$3000 PROFIT OF $3000.00
1000 UNITS SOLD THRU LOWES,MENARDS,WALMART,KMART ETC.. SOLD TO THESE GUYS AT $40 A PIECE OF A PROFIT OF $10 EACH $40,000 GROSS PROFIT THEN SUBTRACT MATERIALS AND LABOR ETC..$30,000( WHICH SHOULD BE A LOT LESS BECAUSE BUY YOUR MATERIALS IN BULK AND MAKE OPERATIONS MORE AUTOMATED HERE IN THE USA WILL REDUCE THIS COST DRAMATICALLY ) YOUR NET PROFIT OF $10,000+
KEEP YOUR SAME EMPLOYEES, AND YOUR SAME QUALITY HERE IN THE USA
I AM A TOOL MAKER AND I KNOW ABOUT THE COMPETEING WITH FORIEGN COUNTRIES ON MOLDS, JIGS AND FIXTURES TO MAKE ALL THESE PRODUCTS WE ARE INVENTING TODAY FOR THE MASS MARKET
THE PROBLEM HAS TO GET FIXED STARTING WITH OUR GOVERNMENT WITH THE NORMAL DAY COST ON EVERYTHING WE DO AND BUY GROCERIES,GAS,INSURANCE,MEDICAL ETC..
BUT THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE NOT NEEDED TO BE TALKED HERE IN THIS BLOG
SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION
I STILL THOUGHT YOUR FIRST BLOG WAS INSPIRING
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Jason…I turned down Home Depot 3 years ago because they had NO RESPECT for the invention and wanted to sell dirt cheap which FORCES me to make it in China just the same way all our big retailers force their products to be made overseas.
Well guess what…losing all our jobs overseas now nobody has the money anymore to buy from retailers and they are dropping like flies.
You see, Handi-Straps is of the HIGHEST quality as well as HIGHEST quality control. I sell a QUALITY $60 piece of equipment to a tradesman and he has it for years, moreover, like a knee or a neck brace, it must be quality. Are people’s entire musculoskeletal system worth $60 for a product that will last years or even a lifetime?
A pair of quality work boots cost $80 and up. I want to supply a quality product and that is the market I choose and I wish not to sell to CHEAP people. Again, let them break their ass.
Jason…don’t get pulled into the game of marketing and other bull the American markets play on consumers. A high quality piece of equipment that will save a person’s body and a product that can’t be broken or worn out and some people have a problem with a fair price of $60 for a quality U.S. manufactured product…but if I put some asshole designers name on it I could sell for $400…right? Some pocketbooks sell real well for thousands! Well…then…I’m a designer too…better yet…an inventor. Hmmm…maybe Handi-Straps is worth a thousand each.
I am not playing games with consumers. The price is the price because I want people to have quality…or to be honest, if they need a cheap garbage Handi-Straps, I don’t want them to have it! Handi-Straps manufacturing follows federal guide lines for fall protection manufacturing ONLY because I want to offer that quality!
You can’t please them all. Pick a category of consumer. There are about 4 categories. You can only fit one or two categories of those people.
Smart people and medical people think Handi-Straps is dirt cheap! They understand. Those are the customers I want to build my brand….not the rock bargain sale hunters that will complain no matter what.
You’ll see…the U.S. economy has MUCH more to drop until all get it like I do and start supporting their country again instead of giving away all the jobs. It is so obvious any idiot can see, we need our jobs back, we need more people LIKE ME.
In this country we manufacture the right way…with the correct insurance, fair labor laws and safety regulations. That costs ALOT of money. Be proud of a U.S. made product! Soon manufacturers will sell direct online and be able to make stuff here…what needs to go are the BIG FAT GREEDY MASS RETAILERS…you’ll see…direct sales is coming…it is the only way…cut out the FAT LAZY salesmen piled 3 high for each sale of everything that reaches the consumer.
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Flex Right
dcrook
Gold Member
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Jason,
What is your company website address?
We need injection mold tooling from time to time.
Dale www.FlexRight.net
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Nobody please be offended by my stern opinion on U.S. manufacturing…but I clearly see if we don’t start working hard and making stuff like the rest of the world we will not much longer live in too big houses, we will live in huts like the rest of the world….obviously with our foreclosure rate.
What more warning do we need? Unemployment in some places close to 20% Something like 40 million on food stamps and we can’t afford to pay for our own health care anymore.
How could you afford all this if everybody is starting to have to work at Wal-Mart for $9 an hour selling foreign made products which is actually “cutting this country’s jugular vein”
ALL countries have to pitch in and make stuff. We thought we were smart asses and above that…we could just be a nation of salesmen. We see now in this depression that is not true.
ALL economies are based on MANUFACTURING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a bunch of fast talking salesmen!!!!!!!!!!
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Tim Gibney (PAINT-N-STORE)
ez1lid
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Jason, I would like to get your contact info also I have a few things that I would like to get quotes for. To whom it may concern I have shopped manufacturing abroad as well as here(usa) for my lid,they were all pretty close but difference was in the mold making and over seas was quite less. This doesn’t mean they were the better choice 1)you have shipping cost 2) if there’s any thing wrong with it and you need to send back, it cost money and in both cases time. 3)if there’s a dispute about your mold not being correct over seas and they say it’s not their problem, this whole scenario becomes a your problem and could cost a lot $ to rectify. A friend of mine is dealing with that now. I have a manufacture here in northern Ca.who is less then all the other quotes that I have received and are very honest people. I think we should all try to keep things here(usa) if at all possible and sometimes it’s just not but even so it will still bring money into the us.Just thought I would put in my 2 cents.
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william ricely
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I agree with u Ron… And just saw on the news 10 Home Depots for sale, that can’t be a good sign for our economy. As a counrty I believe we have to start making better electric cars and trucks (which are much faster than gasoline powered cars by the way), electric farm equipment and convert many unused factories to electric power and start building tons of electric generators that are powered by ocean waves 20 miles off our coasts. Problem solved.
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
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Ron you need to read my blogs again i am not telling you to go to china and make your product for cheaper and with bad quality and less profit
i am telling you to make it here in the usa and don’t change a thing but your marketing strategy
keep your same employees—-keep your standard of quality HERE IN THE USA
I AM NOT SURE WHY BUT YOU THINK IF YOU GO BELOW $60 YOU ARE TURNING YOUR BACK ON THE USA WHICH IS NOT THE CASE
TAKE A LESS OF PROFIT UPFRONT AND MAKE MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN ***PLUS***
YOUR ARE GOING TO SAVE MORE PEOPLES BACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD BY REACHING MORE OF AN AUDIENCE THOUSANDS IF NOT MORE— THE MORE PEOPLE THAT BUY IT WILL SEE THE GOOD QUALITY HERE IN THE USA AND TELL MORE PEOPLE ETC……
YOUR NAME COULD BE THE NEXT BILL GATES IN THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT
EVEN THOUGH WE ALL NEED TO BUY USA PRODUCTS IT STILL STARTS WITH FIXING OUR GOVERNMENT -————- WE ALL— I SAY AGAIN— WE ALL BUY FROM THE WAL-MARTS, KMARTS, ETC… THE MADE IN USA STICKERS DOES NOT FEED MY KIDS !!!! WITH TODAYS ECONOMY I AM GOING TO BUY THE CHEAPER ITEM BECAUSE I CAN’T AFFORD NOT TO UNTIL THIS RECESSION IS OVER
THERE IS NO REASON TODAYS MANUFACTURING CAN’T MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE IN THE USA AND BE A MAJOR COMPETITOR AGAINST FORIEGN COUNTRIES—-IT IS OUR GOVERNMENT KEEPING US IN LAST PLACE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS
FOR THOSE WHO WANTED MY COMPANY’S NAME IT IS WWW.FRCCORP.COM
THAT MY 6 CENTS WORTH
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Jason…thank you for all your ideas. Feedback whichever way is always a good thing. You will not understand until you have one of my product in your hands and feel the quality of each of the four pads, the impregnated webbing on the hand part (red) and see the HEAVY duty stitching we use which takes much more time and degree of difficulty. Just the pads alone is about as much construction and sewing as 2 pairs of shoes.
I will never go below $60. We may include more with the product at some point and maybe an instruction video but never lower because I invented this from a severe problem with a herniated disc. It would have been worth thousands to me if I had to buy. I would also not have faith in a $29.99 product making all those claims….I’d say yeah sure….a certain scam…and so would the medical people. Real solutions do cost money.
Name me one piece of work equipment that you can buy for $60 and loan it to family and friends and they can’t break it, wear it out and you will have to use for decades. My personal sample is 4 yrs. old now and still just as good as new.
People get thrown off. They see this cheap China shit on infomercials for dirt cheap and think everything should be dirt cheap too. It brings down the entire market.
One time I met one of those big infomercial guys on TV. They didn’t know who I was. THEY were complaining of the cheap breakable in a few uses quality of their product that they sold on TV!!!!!!!!
Jason…NEVER…will I offer a cheap Handi-Straps that will break down in a few uses on some heavy objects…and do you know what….I used to get offers once a month from infomercial companies that wanted to finance a cheaper version and sell millions on TV. They wanted to make a cheap piece of shit out of my invention…ruin it…JUST SO THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY!!!
Now Jason….I suppose you would want the better version, my version for maybe a few bucks over priced but will last a lifetime rather than $29.95 which is guaranteed to break. Do you know we even bought special machines, we had over 30 working sewing machines, just for a certain heavy duty stitch I wanted on Handi-Straps? A cheap import would rip in a couple days.
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
Gold Member
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IN MY PREVIOUS BLOGS STATEMENTS I DID NOT WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE WAY YOU MADE IT -- MAKE IT EXACTLY AS THE $60 STRAP JUST SELL IT CHEAPER AND REAP THE PROFITS BY REACHING THOUSANDS INSTEAD OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
ANYWAY I WISH YOU TO SUCCEED IN YOUR STRAP AND IN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU INVENT!!!
GOOD LUCK
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Flex Right
dcrook
Gold Member
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I vote to keep the language on these forums clean and rated G for general audiences.
Dale www.FlexRight.net
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Chris Bohlin
cjbohlin
Gold Member
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Hi Jason,
What you stated was pretty much what I was saying. Increased volume sales could allow for lower item cost produced here in the US and allow for a lower retail cost in stores.
Also it may be worth test marketing the item at retail if a profit could be made with wholesale price at $25. I’d explain the product well to the small business owners, let them know it is a guaranteed sale and work on small places like Ace hardware that are independently owned and independent home centers that have just a few stores. It may allow for a small ramp up and the value proposition would be $60 + shipping online. Could have an inexpensive header card that says your Local (insert store here) cares about your back health during your heavy projects. By using Handi Straps you can (quick features and risk lowering attributes) Now on limited special pricing 39.95 or the like. This way the lower cost could be tested for selling and if it doesn’t work you pull the merchandise back after 3-6 months..maybe longer if it needed do to sales increasing over time do to referral sales through word of mouth purchases.
One more thing if no one has ever had even a minor back injury from lifting for a couple days you’d probably realize even $60 is worth not having the pain and hassle. Problem is people forgot small things like this after a year and will think that is too much but $39.95 in the store with the right packaging and value proposition it could sell well….
Hope to see you product sell well Ron as I know it can if done right.
Cheers, Chris
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
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CHRIS DO YOU DO THIS FOR A LIVING? MARKETING THAT IS IF SO, I AM ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS ON MY PRODUCT
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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It goes exactly like this:
You can go to Wal-Mart, KMart and buy $20 sneakers made of cheap materials that make your feet sweat, stink, legs and feet ache and the sneakers last half as long as a quality brand like Nike that shoes cost $60.
Some people will NEVER be convinced that the $20 shoes are not good enough for their body.
Not everyone can be a “Nike” branded type product with the largest and best reputation in the world but I will tell you this…MY inventions will be of high quality like Nike and building a reputation like them as best as I could.
Anybody know the name of those cheap $20 plastic garbage sneakers in Wal-Mart? Didn’t think so.
Does anybody think EMS, FDs, every division of military I sell to wants the cheap version? Handi-Straps is being reviewed in the White House by one of President Obama’s czars…don’t you think I should make the product at the ABSOLUTE highest quality I can being in front of those groups? Would you put a cheap version in front of them to satisfy cheapskates that just don’t understand.
I have a MEDICAL product. That is what it is. These products are not found at Wal-Marts and such. Also, can you imagine my product liability insurance bill?
People just don’t know until they’ve been in my shoes working on my invention. Many times the inventor knows best, and me having negotiations with two of the highest Fortune 100 companies and their Directors of Marketing…guess I know my marketing stuff.
Handi-Straps will be respected and the price will help people realize that. Those that don’t want to spend the cash for something to greatly help their body for the rest of their life…please don’t buy my product…save your money for 3 pairs of those cheap plastic sneakers that stink, ruin your feet and joints and rip apart in a very short time…and yes…I have bought those cheap sneakers a few times so I know….a whole torso brace as is Handi-Straps, there should be no skimping for such importance. It should be made as best as possible and that is it!
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JASON WINTERS
wintool
Gold Member
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I HOPE YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PRODUCT AND MAKE A GOOD PROFITABLE LIVING AT IT—
BUT BEWARE ONE PERSON MIGHT BUY YOUR PRODUCT FOR $60 AND REALIZE HE CAN CHANGE IT A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU HAVING A PATENT ON IT OR NOT AND HE SELLS IT TO WALMART KMART ETC… FOR $39.95
BUT WE ALL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ON OUR INVENTIONS
AGAIN GOOD LUCK
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Never happen Jason. I don’t think you understand nor should you, this is a very deep innovation along with it’s strategies. Nobody can touch my invention nor would they want to.
You just don’t understand the liability with this product. A cheap knockoff would get sued in a year and taken off the market by federal agencies…you just don’t know what you are talking about.
YOU DON’T PLAY GAMES when you have a product like mine to assist the body…or can do damage.
Keep doing what you are doing and I will do what I am doing. You clearly do not understand my operations and what I have to do right now in this product launch, the market out there and how difficult it is. That was clear when you harassed Everyday Edisons last week. Guess it’s my turn now.
Again…you hurt your knee, there are knee braces ranging for $20 to $600 and even up to a thousand. I clearly see you think your knee is only worth $20 so therefor Handi-Straps isn’t even a product that is for you. No product will ever please everyone.
Today we sold to the state of South Carolina to EMS which I give a 25% discount to. We had a pile of paperwork to fill out for the sale of two pieces to try, which are sold at a 25% discount in the first place.
Jason, you just don’t know….about Everyday Edisons or my operations. It is best to worry about one’s own inventions.
I can go buy a giant HDTV for under $1000 today. Two years ago they were 4 or 5 times that. You figure out why and then you will understand. Get a product manufactured, see how much they want to do for the inventor starting out with low volumes…then you will learn what it is really about.
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Ron Komorowski
rjlinnovations
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Sorry…some people just don’t know….they have no idea how important the four pads are on Handi-Straps on the hands and the shoulders. When they use they understand and always are happy with the price after they buy the product and see closely for themselves…and fully understand…yet some people think they understand all about Handi-Straps….and they just don’t….and I can’t do it “their way” just so I can prove they are wrong.
See that motorcycle dangling on my back and shoulders? I felt NOTHING digging into my body at all using my 4 year old Handi-Straps. That is because of the highest quality padding and construction that I requested. The hand part is so comfortable when you use, it is actually made of a special fancy nylon material you can’t see from the website and the padding again…superior that won’t break down.
If I had a cheap foreign import…HUH…my Handi-Straps would have been in the garbage two years ago and would probably hurt with heavy loads and even maybe pinch a nerve, then I get sued.
Inventors take note…no one can ever knock you down for offering the highest quality for good reason but they can beat you up for offering cheap scamming products destined to break real soon.
Do it right in the beginning…go with quality. When you deal with high volume and public demands later….then you see when you are in the middle of that deal that day. We may have a heavy and a light duty yet…but I would probably get sued sooner or later with the light duty as risk goes up. One lost law suit and it would be all over for Handi-Straps. I do my absolute best to supply the safest, most durable product I can because of that….and should be just fine and never challenged in court for hurting someone.
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