This question is for the experienced people who have files many ideas here.
Please rate the stages in difficulty level? I know this will vary from idea to idea, but the 2nd and 3rd level are pretty similar to 5th and 6th level, where patent search is done again and they again consider it. Of course they are stricter there, and do a better search, but what’s the percentage of ideas which cross 3rd stage and stop at 5th or 6th?
Also, is 4th where they redesign your idea(slightly), or would the design team see if it has a good user experience etc?
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Anant Gilra
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LoL I didn’t know the topic actually said "THAT ENDED=12/7/09 "..no wonder why I couldn’t find it !
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Betsy .
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Your wish is my command! :-) |
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Post link..I can’t find it..40 pages came up when I entered your name..I got tired looking at about half of them threads. |
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Betsy .
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It’s funny, I found the thread by searching ASOTV that ended 12/0709…..and it’s like taking a trip back down memory lane. Because of that search, I became great friends with Eric Huber! And I see all the other people who were posting, that now I’m friends with. Fun! |
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Ok Betsy..thanks for the reply. Now I know why my search didn’t turn anything up being you found the forum after EN called you . Goodluck with your other ideas/inventions :) |
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Betsy .
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Rainer, when I entered Eggies I didn’t even know the forums existed! I didn’t even check my dashboard regularly. Ha, ha. I do know that my submission was unusual in that it was shown to a sponsor that came into EN and was picked right then and there. So I think after I was contacted by EN, my dashboard still showed a G4. The thread that was connected with that search was called ‘ASOTV that ended 12/07/09’. You can put that title in the search area and read it. Notice, I don’t even say anything until I have won. I only found the forums after my EN phone call! :-) SOooooo long ago! Now I’m a Posting Machine! ha, ha |
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Betsy Do you remember how long eggies was at G3 ..G4 G5 G6 and G7. I know thats a lot to remember but any info would be helpful. I was trying to find the thread where u might have posted about moving up in each step like most do but no luck. |
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Betsy .
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A week—-that’s nothin’!! :-) When my submissions are hanging out at G3, I imagine they’re really being discussed as possible G4s or G5s. Check out the above link that says VIDEOS and watch some of the episodes of Everyday Edisons where the research and design team is talking about certain ideas. EN has so many thousands of ideas. G4 is a really BIG step. There is a lot of time and thinking that goes into each submission before it gets the thumbs up and the G4, G5, etc. |
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Anant Gilra
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@Betsy – So G3 is the longest wait. Well maybe that why I have two which show at tick at G3. One of them has been there for over a week, I guess. Hopefully it will stay less than a month in G3. |
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Diana Dumitru
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Every level is difficult (especially the waiting part) until it turns into a beautiful green check-mark! |
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Betsy .
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They kind of have one…it’s called G3. Ha,ha! |
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Fairin Antonio
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i think they should come up with a yellow that means just wait….. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
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Anant Gilra
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Gotcha! You folks have come up with all shortforms. That’s cool. It good to see so much buzz in the community. |
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Betsy .
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The first time you see a big red X on your dashboard, you’ll understand. The green checks are lots better looking! :-) |
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Anything that’s still green (Check) means you are still alive and moving thru the stages. If you see a R3 (Red) means your idea didn’t make it past the green stage G3 and are out of that search. Green is Good and your idea is still alive and Red is Bad which means it’s dead for that search. |
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Penster .
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Anant. The R means red aka your done. The G means green and you are now in the next stage. |
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Anant Gilra
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Thanks for the detailed responses. I really appreciate that. |
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Greg Rotz
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Jim, I think I have a step different understanding of the process than what you’ve written. I thought G3 meant you passed Initial IP Review not that you are having your IP reviewed. |
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Jim Hacsi
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Another thing to consider is the type of invention being submitted. If you’re submitting an idea for an improvement to a product in a crowded market, then consideration of the IP issues involved will surely slow the process of moving through the G-levels. So the entry may sit at G3 for quite a while and be X’d out as an R4. Then suppose it makes it to G4 and it begins to be compared to other entries. The results of what happened in stage 3 are dragged along into consideration at stage 4. If a bunch of good ideas are submitted for consideration, then is it worth the hassle of overcoming the IP issues of a product-improvement idea? So each stage of evaluation builds on the last, but it really depends again on the nature of the invention. For instance, many times inventors come to Edison Nation and they submit an idea for a real game-changing and revolutionary invention that is clearly set apart from all other products and there is huge potential to fill a big gap in a totally new market. The EN team is becoming very keen at spotting those types of inventions, so those inventions obviously move very quickly through the G-levels, resulting in the inventor jumping with joy! Here’s the point: if you look at your invention in a truly honest way and do the research as Roger suggested, you can get a good idea of what type of invention you really have. So when you submit it for the EN team to consider it, you should be realistic in your expectations as to what level the inventions may or may not make it to. The problem is that we are all biased when it comes to our own inventions and we automatically make ourselves think our inventions are game-changers when they are not. So it’s extremely hard to say what level is the most difficult in passing, because the amount of favoritism an inventor has to a particular invention of their own making plays into the picture as well as the type and nature of the invention. Not to mention, the EN team is learning constantly as to what inventions have the best opportunity and potential to succeed! And hey, I even suspect Scott has given a ‘mercy’ advancement or two just to be nice, but it hurts worse sometimes to fall from a higher level! |
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Don McCammon
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Roger’s comment helped me remember the 70’s. My wife was a stewardess and a company came out with disposable panties – wear them once and then throw away. They promoted them by giving the panties to the stewardesses. Back then a stewardess had to be very attractive to get hired. Unfortunately the panties never “took off”. My experience at EN is that level 5 and level 6 seem to be the most difficult to get over. I think EN pretty much gives everyone a free ride through about level 4. |
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Greg Rotz
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If you read through the various searches and the people posting their status, I’d say a significant majority of people go out at level 4 (in posts they say R4.) I would imagine for folks not on the boards, many more are going out at 2 & 3, because they haven’t been listening to Roger’s advice and doing their homework. After that 5 & 7 end up with your submission being weighed against the group to narrow down the best group to submit. The more people the higher the percentage that go out at those levels. |
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Roger Brown
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Anant, what do you learn from this information? How does it help you improve your chances of moving forward? The reason I ask these questions is they don’t post that type of information. Mainly because it doesn’t do anything for you. All the stages have their own hurdle that can stop you or move you forward. Lets say you have a great idea, but it isn’t patentable and the company sponsoring the search says they only want ideas that are patentable. Then lets say you have a idea that is patentable but from a marketing standpoint it is horrible. The example I use for this is edible sneakers. You could patent it but no one would buy it. |
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