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PAUL LIEB
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I invented what I believe could be the most efficient wind turbine possible.
It should provide power at lower wind speeds then all others.

http://www.bulletbobber.com/wipoin.html

posted June 30, 2008 05:44 (
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PAUL LIEB
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MORE INFO:

I can not afford to do prototyping and have no experience at running a company. I would like to line up potential investors see what we have to work with and then establish a company with appropriate personnel, take the investments and begin R&D.

I will take a minor share and oversee R&D. I would eventually like to have a company where all shareholders have an equal say in a PPO or IPO.

Any comments appreciated but not as much as providing a name and amount you would consider investing on an invention that has not been prototyped. You’ll have to have some understanding of wind turbines or make a leap of faith. I truly believe but I am just a draftsman with some common sense and logic – not an aerodynamics engineer. I wish there was computer programmer that has modeled other turbines that could help.

posted June 30, 2008 07:09 (
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Mathew Whitney
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I’ve seen alot of wind turbines, and vertical axis ones with spiral blades, towers that direct wind into a cylinder and down to an impellar…

I’m not sure why your design is an improvement on any others. The idea of mounting turbines to existing power line poles is a thought I’ve had as well, and a good one.

It’s funny, even the wind farming technology is being dominated by big names like GE, with BIG turbines. It would be so much simpler to have micro, distributed generation, we wouldn’t need substations!

posted June 30, 2008 07:34 (
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All other designs like screws have a negeative drag on the up wind side and don’t maximize on the direct impact of drag on the down wind side.

posted June 30, 2008 09:15 (
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Wayne Kurzeja
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Paul,
I am not an expert in these systems in any way, however, I read your info and was struck with the following sentence:
“Putting them on top of every telephone pole would be the logical place to put them because no new transmission lines or new towers would be required.”
I think that is brilliant…but why stop at wind turbines? Why not create a type of multi-purpose energy collector? Those large paddles on the wind collection device should serve as an adequate solar collector too, if properly fitted. And placing them on ALL existing electric poles AND telephone poles would surely generate substantial additional energy. After all, with the amazing growth of cell phone service coupled with ground line service shrinking they’ll have to find something to do with all of those telephone poles!
Just a thought form a non-expert.

posted June 30, 2008 09:26 (
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Benjamin Franklin Paige III
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Dude, I want one.

I don’t know if this is already being developed, but yours is the first one I’ve seen. Living in an urban area right outside of Albany, NY, you will find that most houses are very tall. Elongated versions these wind turbines could be erected along the side of a house with the generator at the base.

Your design allows oncoming wind hitting the left and right side panels of the current face of the VAWT to still harmoniously turn the turbine in one direction. That’s brilliant.

I can see certain neighborhoods adopting a VAWT with decorated panels. Such that it could accent the home, instead of being an eyesore.

I wonder if positioning your VAWT in between tall structures would add to it’s efficiency.

posted June 30, 2008 10:00 (
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PAUL LIEB
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I like the feed back I’m getting here except it would not be practical to make the blades out of solar panels. Solar panels are not efficient unless they face the sun mostly (up). It might make sense to use solar panels as a roof and not allow the wind to escape off the top of the blades there by creating more torque.

posted June 30, 2008 10:19 (
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Paul,

It looks interresting. I don’t know enough about wind turbines to say how efficient it is. You really should make a small scale prototype. You could use 1/4 inch plywood, 1 X 2s , kitchen cabinet hinges and a rotating backyard umbrella shaft for the core. At least to verify that it turns at all.

posted June 30, 2008 16:13 (
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Ron Komorowski
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Paul, I don’t know much about this technology but I have been yearning for more knowledge as all inventors probably are.

I have done internet searches for wind energy. There are many companies out there and very cool to read their websites. Why don’t you do a search and contact them?

VERY remote chance you will make your connection here as that is new and greatly specified technology. Wish you luck….hope you can succeed…for all of us that need.

By the way ALL skyscrapers need a giant wind turbine on them. Should be LAW as they do make a giant impact with energy consumption. Put some up there.

Ron Komorowski
Inventor of Handi-Straps
www.handi-straps.com

posted June 30, 2008 16:31 (
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Hi Paul,

Looks promising enough to build two small prototypes like Mark suggested. You could build them to the same scale out of the same materials. One of your design and one wind turbine that is on the market. You could build a wind tunnel with a box fan and those large thick cardboard cylinders that are used for poring concrete. I don’t know if this next part would work because I don’t know a lot about electricity. You could run bicycle dynamo off the vertical shafts a measure the amps, watts that each one produces. You should research this approach before you start to build anything.

The DOE, Dept.of Energy used to have a grant program for energy saving inventions. There were different levels of monetary grants depending on where you were at with your invention. You might want to check it out they may still be doing the grants.

posted June 30, 2008 21:11 (
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Mathew Whitney
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In regards to wind blade PV cell integration, a thought I’ve had as well, it eliminates the need for sun tracking as the blades/cells will be periodically going into and out of direct light.

I’m wondering if the advantages you claim will be negated by the extra moving parts.

I’m reminded of a continuous transmission but lop-sided…What if the blades could swing out with radial symmetry in proportion to wind speed by putting an elastic band around the circumference? Any advantages there?

posted June 30, 2008 22:00 (
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Mathew Whitney
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Anyone interested in alt. energy needs to be on the Peswiki mailing list, here’s the VAWT page:

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Wind#Vertical_Axis

posted June 30, 2008 22:06 (
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Ron Komorowski
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I just saw a commercial on TV for a company exclusively in wind energy called Vestas. Maybe look them up? Good luck!

posted June 30, 2008 22:07 (
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Tim Chen
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I have been studied wind turbine for a while now and I know wind turbine idea is hard to sell. Your design has too many moving parts and that reduces the lift time and raise maintain cost of a 24/7 operate turbine a lot. I have seen a better one with airplane type of side wing flips which collect wind power very effectively and no moving part other than main rotor.

posted July 01, 2008 13:01 (
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PAUL LIEB
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It is not a high speed turbine so it would not be high maintenance and you can not seriously call 6 parts a lot. The big prop turbines have pitch control that is so complicated you can’t understand it.
I have studied everything on Peswiki and a lot more and mine has advantages over all of them.
It will be more economical and outperform all other designs.

If anyone can build them we could start a business.

posted July 05, 2008 17:17 (
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Tim Chen
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You should know better. Pitch control mechanism only moves when wind speed changes but your design the blade moves at each rotation. I have been talking to wind energy company ECO and national laboratory engineers, they all said they don’t want frequent shape changing due to reliability and noise issues. I don’t want to debate with you and I don’t have a wind turbine design myself. (I am a wind turbine user) I just tell you what I know. Good luck.

posted July 05, 2008 22:27 (
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Don’t know much about wind, but it seems somewhat unreliable from what I gather.

Maybe one of you energy buffs can explain to me why more research and development isn’t going into something more reliable such as solar, and from an article I read in Popular Science, Ocean Wave energy farming looks promising and more powerful and reliable than wind…
posted July 06, 2008 05:54 (
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Tim Chen
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Sun comes up everyday; even at drizzling day you get some energy. Ocean waves are there every minute, yet it’s very regional. Wind, however on the other hand, is both regional and seasonal.

I have one wind power design is better, here to my youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglXMNLu_SI

If the link doesn’t work, click on my name of picture to see my video on my profile page

posted July 07, 2008 13:12 (
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Mark Stark
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Cool video Tim,

I’m not sure it’s free though, the cars generate that wind by burning gas. I’m not sure collecting it won’t hurt their gas mileage. I know you can (unsafely) get better mileage by drafting behind trucks. Slowing down that airstream might hurt mileage.

posted July 07, 2008 16:29 (
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Tim Chen
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It’s free. Either you give it to wind turbine, or give it to trees, winds from opposite traffic… In fact, just build a wall to separate winds from opposite highway traffic increase fuel mileage a little bit.

posted July 07, 2008 16:43 (
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