I’m not a Doctor (MD) but I have watched most of the House episodes.

@Heather – What you are saying is absolutely true; there is lots more money to made TREATING
the condition than there is CURING it! Also, since it’s illegal to test drugs on animals, most of
the testing is done on actual patients; that’s why you see a month long infomercial run on a new drug
(like YAZ for instance), then about a year later you see advertisements from personal injury attorneys
for those who have suffered injury because of the drug.

I was involved in a particularly sad case in 1988 where a lady committed suicide at the end of four
years of aggressive cancer treatment that left her a mere shell of her former self, which included
a radical mastectomy and hysterectomy (she was 38), and consumed every asset her family had,
including their home and property. Infact, it was because they were stone broke that she decided
to end things herself. The Pathologist (who worked at the same place her doctor did), was insistant
the family cremate her, for financial reasons, and even offered to pay for said cremation. Her nephew,
who is a dentist, saw red flags so he notified the State Medical Examiners Office and said he was very
suspicious of her death, which prompted the ME Office to step in. They did, and over the next four
months inspected every square inch of her body, along with OTHER experts and eventually SBI investigators.
Turns out, there wasn’t ONE CANCER CELL in her body, and as far as they could determine, there NEVER WAS!!

Her estate was awarded millions in a wrongful death case, most of which came from the estate of the
two physicians that had used her as a lab rat. Both doctors lost their licenses, the pathologist moved
to South America where his family were, and her attending physician moved to HELL (by way of a rope)
after being left desolate and broke while awaiting the start of a prison sentence.

Not an insider so i can’t post links…just google TED TALKS.

Yeah!! Can you send me some links?
Thank you

Albert, You might be interested in viewing some of the TED talk lectures…I have seen several related to cancer treatments that are being developed.

Thanks for all you help guys, you have brought up a lot of stuff I hadn’t heard of. I’ll do a lil more research and report back.
I’m concerned nothing will work while on a corticosteriod since its raising his blood sugar and feeding the cancer. I might have to figure out an alternative to that first.

BeadleRock, are you allowed to have Cannabis is a hospital?

I’m just doing this so I don’t have to see my mom cry, I can’t imagine what I would do if I cared about the person.
Thanks again everyone

My question is, why are they not funding THESE type of research & new methods of cancer healings?
Actually, I KNOW why. Call me crazy- but I believe I have read that the FDA is funded by the big drug companies. They surely do not want to lose out on their big money maker (chemo, etc) so- why would they want a cure? I find it so hard to believe that a cure has not been found, or shouted from a rooftop… or at least in the development by these alternative methods previously discussed.
If it IS true, and many people are dying from cancer all the time, it’s a crime that they put money in front of human life.
Just my thoughts.

Check out dr burzynski and his work with antineoplastons. Another interesting and natural route that uses holistic practice is the gerson therapy. In addition to healing cancer in the majority of his patients, dr max gerson cured albert schweitzers diabetes and his daughters TB. Check out the case studies. :-)
ps. They were laughed at too. You will find that when you propose a solution that people don’t understand or is out of the scope of their field of expertise, they are very defensive and quick to dismiss. Sad really. Good luck!!

Albert,

I respect your tenacity and your desire to make the world a better place. Doctors are people too. One of the things that you have to remember though is the process by which they have achieved.

If you want to make an impact on their thinking, there are a couple ways you can go about it. The methodology that you choose is important but how you are received will depend almost completely on your intent and how you’re perceived.

First, how much proof do you have that your method works better?

When do engage the good doctor?
Never engage in his place of business. I spoke with Dr. Perlmutter last night at a VIP function, he was the guest of honor and giving a talk on neural plasticity. My knowledge is pale in comparison to his and though I know what I am talking about when it comes to learning behavior and neural plasticity, there is no way I could have offered anything in the way of conjecture on the subject matter without pushing him away. What had to happen is that I had to earn his respect by showing him the respect he deserved up front.

It was a very interesting evening and I won’t bore you with the details.

I also have 2 submissions that I have partnered up with a Phd and an MD. With both I first had to show them that I respect THEIR position first and how it fits into the project and make a value-proposition that massages THEIR ego.

Neural Linguistic Programming is effective presentation skills. Asking questions, like you are doing here, is good to attract people to your initiatives. You ask how to get him to listen to you?

First, try talking to him.
~Respect his time.
~Present your case when he is not stressed for time.
~Offer a token of appreciation for his time.
~DO NOT speak OVER him or attempt to circumvent his authority on the subject matter.
~Be convincing but NOT argumentative.
~Seek to prove him right; the more he is right the more likely he will be to listen to you.
~The portions of the subject matter that conflict with his current methods of practice better have 5 layers of objection handlers.
~Have 2-3 questions that pertain to the subject matter that completely stump him and he should know without making him look stupid.

~NO PARLOR TRICKS! Doctor Perlmutter pulled out a couple parlor tricks last night… This works in seminars where people are looking to be entertained, NOT when the other person is looking to challenge your point of view.

~When/if he or she challenges you, take that as the greatest compliment… It simply means that they are interested and want to know why it is different. Differentiation is the beginning to learning a new method to replace a previously learned behavior.

There are stories behind everyone of these points. This is not the right place for them but they are good principals. If Frank does not object then you know they are solid… LOL ;-)

Chappy

Hi Albert. From what I can tell by your post, it sounds like clinical trials are the way to go. You can tell them to ask their Oncology Educator or Clinical Nurse Specialist to provide a list of trials that he might qualify to join. Those are the folks that will likely have the time and access to do that. The American Cancer Society is a patient advocate organization that will have suggestions for him as well. He could also see for himself and look into the National Cancer Institute’s database for trials.

http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials

His Docs may or may not be familiar with all the options beyond their area of expertise. Most will be open to new ideas if he has seriously looked into new treatment options. The Oncology Clinical Nurse Specialist can help him present his ideas and make suggestions.

He’s lucky to have you helping him out this way. I hope he gets the answers he’s hoping for.

Albert

I just received an update from a good friend who appears to be losing ground in her battle with cancer. A little over three years ago she was diagnosed with Stage IIIC ovarian cancer. After going through rigorous treatments involving both chemo and radiation she seemed to be on the mend. But a little over a year ago she was diagnosed with cancerous lesions on her brain. After receiving radiation therapy for that over the past year she was just told that cancer cells were found in her spinal fluid and appear to be forming tumors resulting a great deal of pain. She now has to undergo additional radiation therapy for that.

In conversations we’ve had I told her I’m a big believer in leaving no arrows left in the quiver when you’re fighting for your life like that. You need to consider ANY possibility that may have shown clinical benefits. This could be anything from switching to a macrobiotic diet, exploring Chinese herbal treatments and even acupuncture (for possible symptom relief), cannabis (which Melissa Etheridge claims helped save her life in her battle with breast cancer), yoga, new treatments undergoing clinical trials, etc. If you go to clinicaltrialsdotgov you can find MANY trials underway and some still enrolling as we speak. Leave no arrows behind and no bow undrawn! I wish you all the best and I’ll be keeping a good thought for your friend!

Always remember Doctors dont like to be told how to do his / her job, there are great doctors out there who will listen. Tell them you have “heard” of diferent treatment options and what does he / she think? Getting second and more opions never hurt and could help. My prayers and blessings are with you. :-)

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I read that story before, very smart girl.

Y’all may find this interesting:

cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57358994/calif-hs-student-devises-possible-cancer-cure/?tag=pop;stories

(only insiders can post links that actually work.)