I beg to differ on everything has already been invented…just saying, I have original inventions and perhaps the textiles are not original, but nonetheless, I have inventions that are not on the market today. I know this for a fact..and are you saying eggies was one of those “already invented” products? I think it’s silly to argue what we all view differently…perhaps it’s best just to not even post each of our thoughts, but I do like to put in my 2 cents here and there! Happy inventing!

Great point Karl -

If you think about it, everything that can be invented has already been invented, because on the seventh day, God rested. And now God is building His church of believers and seeking heirs to receive His creation! So inventions are nothing more than revelations and gifts given from God to whom and when He chooses. Be thankful!

Karl…. i coulda really used one of those heated garden hoses you thought of… however NOT FIRST…. sorry… :)))))) HUMMMM why aren’t they in the store right next to the clip on weed eater wheels eh ?

HAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and white flag hand off…….. :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Happy inventing!

If you are going to dismiss inventions and favor unpatentable ideas, don’t call for inventions. Call for unpatentable ideas.

I may then submit a handkerchief with NASCAR logos.

I don’t see how you can believe for a second that I am having any ‘fun’ here. I am not.

I really appreciate your post. Thank you.

Luis,

I guess I am just having trouble identifying the core of your complaint…..what exactly are you concerned about?

Bandai, Mattel, SkyMall, etc. etc. etc…..none of these companies contract with EN for “ideas”…….it does not really matter if a submission is entered as an idea or a full blown working model…..they all come out the other end of the EN factory as “contraptions” —-as you term it…..what takes place in the guts of the EN process, to me, is what makes EN great!!!

Even if EN decides to present an “idea” vs. a “contraption”…..who cares? ….. we all know that the LPS company cannot sell an “idea” on the shelves…at some point it MUST be converted to a tangible product…..does not matter to me if EN does it, or the company likes the idea enough and they do it in their factories…as long as what was generated by my brain/creative forces/etc. results in a finished product somewhere down the line – I win.

When I look at the EN success stories…..I remain confident that they find homes for inventions….I have no idea how Gyro Bowl and such got to the shelves…..they may very well have just been submitted as ideas…all I know is that I see them on shelves and the way they got there was EN…

Luis, I do not support any attacks…I thought that by that point, you both were having a bit of light fun….I took it as humor.

Maybe I will say it again! Only the people who read my last post will know what I’m talking about though!

Was it really that funny Cowbell? I still don’t get it. I actually did read the second post. Are you endorsing that individual’s personal attacks? Are you validating that behavior on these forums?

I appreciate all the different points. I appreciate all the positions. I respect them all. Thanks, Michael. Thanks, Mark, Betsy, Greg.

Please do respect mine.

One of the members I respect and admire most in this place is Frank White. I am sincere. I know he knows this. He has admitted that a jumpsuit is not new. How is that an invention. I am referring to inventions vs. ideas. What is wrong with pointing to the obvious. To reality. It is right here in plan view.

All I said and repeat now is: I am concerned.

You can explain everything that you want to suit anyone of two sides after the fact. At the end, it is what you in your heart believe. I remain concerned. And that is my inalienable right. Please, respect it. Go on and believe what you want and profess your solidarities as you desire. I do not interfere with that. Please do not interfere with my convictions.

On a side note, Edison was Edison not because of design patents or his fashion style or his writing talents. He has Edison because he was an inventor. He invented things. He was an inventor.

The harsh reality is that it’s extremely difficult for an inventor to invent even a single invention that’s truly successful and grand in nature, which means it becomes a best-selling product that makes a lot of money for everyone involved. So inventing multiple inventions that are all of the same high caliber would be something very extraordinary indeed. However, EN gives each and every member the chance of succeeding with several inventions because EN takes away all the burdens associated with inventing so the inventor can concentrate on becoming a higher caliber inventor. To then criticize the very process that gives opportunities to inventors where none would have otherwise existed is hypocritical and it makes no sense at all! What’s even more ridiculous is how an inventor can convince himself that every invention he invents is of the highest caliber just because it has some proprietary element, and it must be some flaw or conspiracy involved in the very process he is trusting that prevents his inventions from achieving the success they are surely warranted! As a supervisor, I once got into trouble for telling an employee, “If you don’t like it, then leave!” So I won’t ever say that again!

“Luis, good, then don’t read this one either!”
Thanks Papa Jim…..coffee spewed from my nose on that one! Best laugh I had all day…..I was simply following the discussion you had with Luis and when I got to that one…….well, I may have ruined a keyboard….caught me off guard!

Mark, I was thinking the exact same thing…….all submissions are “automatically inexplicable” unless you happen make it to R8 as an Insider. Nice post.

I continue to be amazed at the level of intelligence refelected by the members here…….to be honest, I was kind of enjoying the strategies employed by Papa and Luis, both sides displayed a better command of the language than I could ever hope to possess.

I would like to weigh in on just one point…the part about ideas not being inventions…..I would suggest to all that while different, the two go hand in hand….I doubt Edison had a single invention that manifested to reality without first originating as an idea in some form…..the definitions of the two words suggest they are joined at the hip……one of the definitions of invention: “an act or instance of creating or producing by exercise of the imagination”……..imagination takes place in the mind…..as do ideas…….I only throw this out because I am one of those idea people….I can identify a need….I can see in my mind a product that would work…..I see how it functions, etc…..where I am weak is the engineering….for instance, I know that a particular product may need hinges, but how they attach and how far they extend, etc….no clue……I think that is the beauty of EN……really…….EN opens the door to all inventors….I do not think someone is less of an inventor because they lack the engineering and “contraption” skills to bring a concept to life…..you appear to be one of those dual talented inventors, capable of ideas AND bringing it to life in the shop…….others of us however, well we just have our ideas…

If Edison were here, I would be willing to bet he would have no problem with idea people, or the way EN is running this thing….it really is the best of both worlds……for inventors, as you define the word, EN works……for idea people, EN also works…..

As to the claim that Thomas Edison was only about all new inventions, “engineerng in the purest sense of the word”……I beg to differ…..Edison held some design patents too….these do not fall into the category of “contraptions” and most likely had very little to do with “engineering”……..

did you know the majority of Edison’s patents were improvements over prior art?…this would indicate that he most certainly did indeed see value in the “ideas” of others……..

From Wikipedia:
…………..About a dozen were design patents, which protect an ornamental design for up to a 14-year period. As in most patents, the inventions he described were improvements over prior art.

Have a great weekend everyone :)

Luis, I basically agree with you. I would never call myself an inventor. I had an idea for Eggies. I pictured them in my mind, I wrote a very detailed description, etc. Edison Nation and the sponsor picked the idea, and did the prototyping, testing, patent application, etc. to turn my idea into an invention.

As you know, I was really good friends with Ron and before he passed away——I told him all about Eggies. He was SOooooooooo excited! He was thrilled for me, proud of EN and so supportive. We talked about the beauty of EN giving ‘idea people’ the same opportunities as inventors with patented products.

Charlie in Hawaii is one of the new Everyday Edisons. He too, had an idea, rather than an actual prototype. But guess what? He was picked and EE/EN is really excited about bringing his idea to life.

When I first found EN, the headline said, ‘Ever Have A Great Idea’. Hey, I thought, maybe sometimes I do…..it’s worth a shot. And many of my so called Great Ideas——have been SHOT down BIG TIME. But one was chosen and in just it’s short time on shelves, it has sold Millions. I’m not responsible for that….EN and Allstar are. But, they took my idea and ran with it.

Edison Nation has it’s own business concept. It seems to be working very well. You may not agree with it, but that’s okay too. Things are really not Black and White…..there are many shades of gray. But again, that’s how I see things as an ESFJ. Other personality types may see things totally differently. :-)

Luis,

I, as well as almost everyone here have had several inventions “inexplicably” not presented. Did yours go R4 or R5?
It does not mean EN dislikes you or your inventions. Since there is no feedback (please let’s not restart that argument)
the rejection is automatically inexplicable.
Remember, EN is reviewing and comparing thousands of ideas. They have the right and responsibility to present their
customers (the searching companies, not the inventors) with what they consider the best. It is up to their judgment.
It is possible they found prior art, impractical cost, existing competition, etc.
Except for a design patent, patents are NOT easy to get. Just because something is different does not necessarily make
it patentable. Just because something is patentable does not mean EN has to present it. There are many other things
to consider.
When I get an R4 or R5, I relook at it to try to see why it wasn’t a G7. If I can step back far enough sometimes I can figure
it out. If I can figure it out, maybe I can fix the problem and enter the new version in another search.
This is a game that requires patience and the ability to NOT fall in love with your ideas. Love is too blind for this game.
I hope this helps. Good luck with all of your ideas.

Pen,
I am honored that you would consider me a dear EN friend…thanks. And thanks for that link. what is interesting about that is that all those cars were probably made by different people who all thought; “I thought that was my invention”, but it didn’t stop any of them…

Luis, you are obviously a prolific and accomplished inventor and I know that it can be frustrating to not know why a product is passed over,
but sometimes it is not always about just the novelty of an idea, but the feasibility as well. I know that you were frustrated with the Bend Roads concept, but the fact of the matter is that when you have two otherwise bendable wires connected to either side of a flat strip of material, it simply is incapable of bending sideways without buckling beyond function. I hope this is not taken offensively because I know it can be hard to see or know things that are close to us, but I also know that you are all about the answers as well…that’s why I think that you will understand my intentions. Best of success my friend.

Yeah! Speaking of ""I thought that was MY invention""… I should have the sketches somewhere. When I first saw the “Smart” car I thought: “It looks just like a shoe” and I drew a front, side , back and perspective view of a 4 wheel-life-size car that looked like a shoe. Of course, I just put it aside. Chances to get a car manufacturer to even see the idea are very remote. I made a logo for “Shoe” (The Car) and everything.

Thanks for the spell check :o)

Luis: The sneakers are pretty cool…….might want to do a spell check.. sneacker shows a few times…not sneaker.

On the flip side, check this out…. for fun

http://spluch.blogspot.com/2007/11/cars-designe...

Sorry, fellows. This is actually te last one:

You know, I am very concerned. Ideas are not inventions. Inventions are NOVEL, and should be patentable. Ideas are not inventions.

This site has a HUGE name to live up to. Thomas Edison. This man was not about ‘ideas’. He was about contraptions. He was about engineering (in the pure sense of the word). Devicing something that would render an unexpected result. Inventions do not get into gray areas with other products. Inventions do not infringe on existing active patents and do not replicate expired patents.

I have several inventions that point-by-point address the requirements of the search and that are unexplainably excluded from presentations and then I see ideas left and right making it to presentation. I myself dismiss ideas if they can not be developed into inventions. They have to have at least one clear proprietary element.

I am concerned about the whole thing. I try not to, but the facts are right here in plain view.

In keeping this thread true to its tittle

I thought that was MY invention !!

I am posting again my last message. Please felloqw ENers, feel free to criticize it, question it, attack it if you will. If so, please let’s keep it impersonal. Thanks in advance!

Remain seated and come to order… This court is again in session! (Just kidding. Kidding!!!)

Yes, practically any product of clothing or in any field can be protected by a patent, if you can describe it in the form of at least one patent claim (and this patent claim is novel and meets all the other patentability requirements, of course).

I firmly believe that this project

http://www.themaxmask.com/resources/vroomers.pdf is patentable.

Incidentally, it appears to have at leat two different patentable feature. These two different features are so unrelated that technically, two separate applications would be required. This was NOT presented to the sponsor.

I have another clothing project that appears clearly patentable, albeit the novelty relates to a gimmicky aspect of it beyond the clothing function.

Now, to address the heading of this thread: ""I thought that was MY invention !!"",

I am going to refer to two "NON-inventions I submitted to the BYB (A Coca-Cola subsidiary) search, and which have made it big time on the markeplace, but which were not presented to the sponsor either.

1) CocoNo2-0. >>>As reported by MSNBC, The Coca-cola Co. bought ZICO, a Brazilian company marketing Coconut water a few months after the presentation took place. Again this is NOT an invention, as it is a natural product (as such , not patentable) and it is further known in tropical latitudes (Latin America & South East Asia).

A new drink could hardly be patentable. The search was not for ‘inventions’ but rather about drink products. The search had specific guidelines that precluded certain type of products. The fact that the submission made it to G4 is a clear validation that the submission was not precluded.

Had Cocono2-0 been presented, two things could have happened:

a) Coca-Cola licenses it, or

b) Coca-Coola does not license it

If Coca-Cola licenses it…kachin!! if Coca-Cola does not license it… well… too bad! But when Co-Cola buys Zico, we just tap on their shoulder and say: Hello-o-ooo? kachin!!

Incidentally, I recently saw a couple of young guys also featured on the MSNBC show “How I made my millions,” explaining how they also made their millions with Coconut water.

2) “Grain Shakes”. >>> As also reported by MSNBC, Pepsico has spent millions and millions of dollars developing ‘liquid oatmeal’.

“Grain Shakes” is exactly that: liquid oatmeal. And again, it is not an invention. Quaker has been producing it and marketing it in Colombia & Venezuela (That I know of. I’m sure there are more countries) for several decades. Again, the project made it to G4, clear indication that it qualified for the “Drink This” search.

It is quite frankly, not very easy to “drink this.” Not easy to swallow.

If they had only been presented.

I love Saturdays at EN and sometimes Sundays get even better!

Quoting a dear EN friend:

I wan’t to laugh so bad…but I can’t because I forgot to inhale! ;-)

Luis, good, then don’t read this one either!

Jim:

I will not dignify your posts anymore with any fiurther replies. The last one was not read.

Have a good day, Sir.

Luis, let’s just address what you previously wrote and how I responded. You wrote that your inventions are inexplicably (nice word, by the way!) excluded from presentations by EN which means you were either struggling to find a reason why, or else you think EN is treating you unfairly, which implies discrimination. I merely tried to tell you in a nice way that you are wrong in thinking EN is discriminating against you. The only other reasons then for them doing or not doing what you want are that your inventions are not worth ‘didly-squat’, or that you feel you’re a great inventor and EN simply does not recognize your amazing inventive abilities. If you’re now saying that you don’t think EN is discriminating against you (because you apparently hate that word!), then one of the other alternatives must be true. Which one of them do you like best?

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Listen, if you have something to debate about whatever I have said, by all means just go ahead and do it.

Please, do it. Address the issues. Addresss the facts. Dispute them. Attack them.

But not me. Please respect me.

And when you get cornered, have some decency and admit it. Don’t start playing charade.

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Again: Do not use me for your Adulatory agenda. Have some self respect.

“I have several inventions that point-by-point address the requirements of the search and that are unexplainably excluded from presentations and then I see ideas left and right making it to presentation.” The sounds of silence…shhhh.

Have you ever heard of the eloquence of silence? When there is nothing to be said, nothing is said.

Where do you get the ‘discrimination’ accusation from? When I have I ever, ever, ever used such a word?

Complaining that inventions are not taken to the presentation level in favor of ideas that are indeed taken, is just that: a complaint. I stand by it. What is wrong with that?

You Mister, are attacking me at a personal level to accrue adulation points. You have left me with no choice but to get a little personal myself: Don’t you have any self respect?

It is not working Karl………..oh well

Penster, where is that white flag?

Luis, you have accused EN of discriminating against you by not taking your inventions to the presentation level. There are real people on the invention selection team at EN, so how can you say you’re not making this a personal crusade against them? It seems the only inventions you care about are your own. That’s why you can’t enter into a serious dialogue or discussion about inventing with anybody else. By the lack of response you get to your rhetoric, I would say other members recognize the same.

My trash can is full of brilliant ideas that some one else thought of long ago…my latest one after my garden hose froze was a heated garden hose, it didn’t take much of a search to come up with a whole bunch of them…oh well back to my day dreams HA!

This board is about inventions. That is wat I have done. Discuss inventions. Yes, raise issues. Even question. Yes, question. Wat is wrong with that? I have not accused anybody of anything. I have not EVER addressed anybody personally as you have done it with me.

The only person accusing here is you. To make it worse you are also abrogating the role of judge. Again, I request that you respect me and also respect this board.

Please find another way to practice adulation. Do not use me please.

Luis, when you make such serious accusations that you can’t prove and play the tortured individual all the time, you are doing everything but acting impersonally. Impersonally-speaking that is.

Jim. I respectfully request that you keep the messages impersonal. I am not interested in flames and personal discussions. Please respect me and respect this discussion board.

I am participating in a discusssion. I am sharing my experiences. Whatever you want to infer from them is up to you.

Please do not fault me for not subscribing to an adulatory school of thought. I do not believe in that.

I am serious about my posts. I am respectful. I am corteous. I am professional. I expect the same treatment. Please.

Thank you.

Luis, are you implying EN discriminates against you and they don’t allow your inventions to make it to presentation because of that? Then you have truly invented a novel excuse with at least one unbelievable and unique proprietary element! The only other reasons could be that your inventions are not unobvious or else EN is not able to see the brilliance in your inventiveness. Sounds like you have a lot to hash out. Hope this helps. Good luck in your endeavor.

You know, I am very concerned. Ideas are not inventions. Inventions are NOVEL, and should be patentable. Ideas are not inventions.

This site has a HUGE name to live up to. Thomas Edison. This man was not about ‘ideas’. He was about contraptions. He was about engineering (in the pure sense of the word). Devicing something that would render an unexpected result. Inventions do not get into gray areas with other products. Inventions do not infringe on existing active patents and do not replicate expired patents.

I have several inventions that point-by-point address the requirements of the search and that are unexplainably excluded from presentations and then I see ideas left and right making it to presentation. I myself dismiss ideas if they can not be developed into inventions. They have to have at least one clear proprietary element.

I am concerned about the whole thing. I try not to, but the facts are right here in plain view.

No offense people but back to the topic of this thread has raised some questions in my head. It’s happened to us all I’m sure. WOW! That’s an AWESOME idea! Why don’t they make those? They would sell like crazy! Only to be let down 3 minutes later with a quick google search. With a few clicks of the mouse you find that you weren’t the first one to think of this amazing idea. It’s patented, it’s being manufactured and apparently being sold somewhere( but nowhere near you). Is there an oppertunity for us idea people to create a “BUZZ” about our products by pushing someone else’s niche product, in the right market. I’m starting to question marketing in a big way. You might have the cure for prostate cancer but if your marketing team confuses the “shrinkage” message… Well you know where I’m going with this. It’s not gonna sell. I’ve seen many beach related ideas as of late. Most I thought were my own, most I found out were not. But I’m almost considering asking the bank for a loan to open a shop on the beach that sells all these “things” that for some reason no other shops do.
Upscale beach with valet parking.
Maybe it’ll be like a “sharper image” for beach peep’s.
Where’s Chappy? I think he might even like this concept. ( or not )
I want a beach towel with a built in pillow… got ’em.

Remain seated and come to order… This court is again in session! (Just kidding. Kidding!!!)

Yes, practically any product of clothing or in any field can be protected by a patent, if you can describe it in the form of at least one patent claim (and this patent claim is novel and meets all the other patentability requirements, of course).

I firmly believe that this project

http://www.themaxmask.com/resources/vroomers.pdf is patentable.

Incidentally, it appears to have at leat two different patentable feature. These two different features are so unrelated that technically, two separate applications would be required. This was NOT presented to the sponsor.

I have another clothing project that appears clearly patentable, albeit the novelty relates to a gimmicky aspect of it beyond the clothing function.

Now, to address the heading of this thread: ""I thought that was MY invention !!"",

I am going to refer to two "NON-inventions I submitted to the BYB (A Coca-Cola subsidiary) search, and which have made it big time on the markeplace, but which were not presented to the sponsor either.

1) CocoNo2-0. >>>As reported by MSNBC, The Coca-cola Co. bought ZICO, a Brazilian company marketing Coconut water a few months after the presentation took place. Again this is NOT an invention, as it is a natural product (as such , not patentable) and it is further known in tropical latitudes (Latin America & South East Asia).

A new drink could hardly be patentable. The search was not for ‘inventions’ but rather about drink products. The search had specific guidelines that precluded certain type of products. The fact that the submission made it to G4 is a clear validation that the submission was not precluded.

Had Cocono2-0 been presented, two things could have happened:

a) Coca-Cola licenses it, or

b) Coca-Coola does not license it

If Coca-Cola licenses it…kachin!! if Coca-Cola does not license it… well… too bad! But when Co-Cola buys Zico, we just tap on their shoulder and say: Hello-o-ooo? kachin!!

Incidentally, I recently saw a couple of young guys also featured on the MSNBC show “How I made my millions,” explaining how they also made their millions with Coconut water.

2) “Grain Shakes”. >>> As also reported by MSNBC, Pepsico has spent millions and millions of dollars developing ‘liquid oatmeal’.

“Grain Shakes” is exactly that: liquid oatmeal. And again, it is not an invention. Quaker has been producing it and marketing it in Colombia & Venezuela (That I know of. I’m sure there are more countries) for several decades. Again, the project made it to G4, clear indication that it qualified for the “Drink This” search.

It is quite frankly, not very easy to “drink this.” Not easy to swallow.

If they had only been presented.

and that’s our Papa. The one and only. A class act.

Fairin, you may remember from another thread, but just to keep the rhythm here, I had the idea of what we now know as Glade Plug-Ins long before they were on the market.
I love your T shirt ideas especially the blonde one Ha Ha!

Sorry if I misread, Matt. Feedback at any level is a very sensitive issue though. Frank thinks everything is okay now and I agree. I typed my last post before I saw your apology and realized you had Frank’s better interests in mind.

Thats good… Matt n Frank… cuz this was supposed to be a FUN FUN FUN topic for all of us that have found “OUR IDEAS” on line or on the shelf !!!! HAR !!!! Right when you think you are original… think again… !!! :))))

i still want a snap on wheelbase for my weed eater … now i have to buy one…. :)))))))))))))))))))))))

Cheers !!!

I’m afraid something was read between the lines in my post that didn’t exist. I was trying to help clarify the issue. I intended no harm. I also did not intend to degrade or in any way belittle Frank. Based on a personal email exchange with Frank today, I believe he understands that.

Phewww—————— never mind : D
For a minute there after reading “arrogant, pompous, along for the ride and out of harms way” I thought you weren’t really Papa. You sounded more like the infamous…Oh I cant say names but it begins with an “M”….okay I’ll say it… my ex-wife.
Ha Ha Ha! Did you think I was eluding to someone else?
Now on the serious side I appreciate your clarification. We must be careful here because Chappy may get offended if he thinks I entered into another “bromance” so soon after he ended ours. Now here’s how I see it, for what it’s worth. Frank, I’m sure, is proud to have you on the trail of this misunderstanding. Any of us would be. I say “misunderstanding” because 1.) I personally have never witnessed Matt display those behaviors here which so closely resemble my peaches’ description of me. 2.) it looks as though Frank is satisfied and 3.) Matt has apologized for any unintended offense. I hope you guys can work out any further details on a three way call because it won’t help the morale here to see any one of you three diminished in any way. IMHO.

Greg, I was in no way referring to you or anything you said. On the contrary, you are one of the most loyal and nicest members we have here. I’ve tried to hint every way possible, but now I’ll say it directly that Matt’s degrading response to Frank’s valid concern was out of line and absolutely inappropriate. I hope EN realizes how such actions affect morale. We already lost one member as Frank pointed out and there is no reason to lose more.

Hey Guys, I’m just getting caught up in this thread. I’m sorry if the delay has made it appear that I thought my post was the last word on the matter or that I somehow didn’t care.

Our team saw Frank’s idea as a brand play. Jumpsuit pajamas have been around forever. We did not believe it was strong on the IP front but we believed it was a clever idea and we gave it the benefit of the doubt.

Our team did find this:

They probably should have failed the idea when they found that but again, they gave it the benefit of the doubt because it was a very non-mainstream example and paired with the NASCAR brand in addition to a team brand, there just might be an opportunity for success.

Our goal is not to fail as many ideas as possible. Our goal is the opposite. If we believe there is a chance of commercial success, our goal is to promote that idea as much as possible to the search sponsor. We both win for each and every idea that is selected for commercialization and we do everything we can to make that commercialization a reality.

Frank, I meant no harm by my post. I was just trying to add clarification. If it offended you in any way, I’m sorry.

Actually Greg i think that is a good question… cuz i have always wanted a T that said on the front…. GOD MADE A MISTAKE and on the back…. it says SO I AM BLOND ON THE INSIDE…. can i have that little statement on a T made mine… i also like the my REJECT idea T…. and also my I WASNT FIRED I’M RETIRED T…. i even have my little sig and the bottom…. so NO ONE STEEL this… cause i kinda want to start a line… SO HELP ME if i see this on a rack next week !!!!!!!!!!!

OH and BIZ Q…. here is a idea i had for my Kitchen that you might like… not sure if it showed up in my last avatar…. OK NOW all you CONTRACTORS this is MY IDEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAR

i have enough door to eliminate my kitchen door that goes out to the deck to keep up with code….. SOOOOOOOO i took the door off… had it opened up about eight inches or so… and built a OUTHOUSE buddied up to the opening on the outside… roof tilts down… trip the whole nine yards…( i just need a half moon tacked onto it to finish it up on the outside :))))))))) Wired in a plug and brought the water line in for the FRIGE !!!

NOW the refrigerator pushes into the “outhouse” and is even with the wall…. makes my kitchen space…. WAY BETTER…. its so cool cuz i have enough clearance to push the butter dish back on top of the frige… i love it.. !!! and everyone that sees it loves the idea !@!!!!!!!!!

SO HELP me if that shows up in SUNSET MAG or HGTV …. i will STROKE OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Papa, If my statement caused this outrage then I apologize for the timing of the question and within the context of this present sub-topic i.e., Franks issue which I certainly don’t mean to belittle. I agree with your passion for protecting the inventors i.p. I should not have redirected the issue.
Jury please disregard the question.

Frank, you and I have talked before about the difference between being in the trenches and being in a lofty position of control without recognizing or caring that other people’s lives matter. You have my respect for how you deal with adversity and obvious unfairness, so the best I can offer is to cover your back when the bullets start flying. They’re not real lead bullets in this case though, but they’re instead bullets wrought from arrogance and a pompous attitude shot at you from a person along for the ride, but completely out of harm’s way. You deserve an apology even if nobody else will say it or admit it!

Thank you Jim; I do appreciate it, sir.
My partner use to be a regular here, and the brain child of the design; I illustrated it
and helped search for prior art (it does have a couple features that I omitted from the
posted photo, which WAS included in the submission to make it ever more unique), he, unfortunately,
decided to move on after the Geico experience. I also realize Geico wasn’t an LPS sponsor, but
the subject in the commercial was.
We did find the jumpsuits for toddlers and children, but was unable to locate any
reference to the full sleepers for infants; that’s the market we were shooting for.

It was just one of those “that’s my invention” moments.