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I, as everyone else, have a great Idea. I also am high risk client. I need to find a licensee that would be interested in investing in two or three innovative ideas one for the auto industry, one for the home and garden industry, one for the education industry, and one for toy and game industry.is there anyone in the Portland, OR. metro area would be willing to take on the highest risk they’ve ever heard ofin thre life?
Clinton

posted October 27, 2009 04:00 (
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Margaret Pryor
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Clinton,

Have you entered any of them in Edison Nation product searches?

posted October 27, 2009 07:10 (
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Thank you for your support and concern for me margaret. but i don’t have the $25 to do that. And I’m not at all computer saavy . I live on ssi and have only
$400 monthly to meet the needs of me and my family. I am personally amazed that I’ve gotten this far.[But only for the grace of God.] any helpful tips, pointers, and hints would be helpful by all.

thank you again.
posted October 27, 2009 13:42 (
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Clinton, contact Roger Brown, or Scooter Ron (Handi-Straps) have then sign an NDA let them evaluate your idea before you move forward. Maybe they will do a share equity deal with you or get you headed in the right direction if anything. You would be surprised how many people think they have the next million dollar idea, I hope you do. Just because youve never seen it in retail means nothing, many ideas never get to retail even though it may be patented…….
If one of the guys think your idea has potential,I’m sure you will find your way…….
I would try Roger first, I think Ron’s trying his new Turd fishing lure out in the bath tub or toilet.
Just kidding Ron,,,,,,,hey try out the Texas Turd Lure Ron,,,,it’s great for Marlin & Sailfish……it’s been around for years, one hell of a fish catcher…….

Clinton, best of luck,

posted October 27, 2009 14:45 (
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william ricely
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Clinton if u have made it to this website then ur better at computers than u thought, Have you next gone to “Google patent search” to make sure all those ideas don’t already exist? then keep goin from there! People here will help u, myself in any way i could.

posted October 27, 2009 15:24 (
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William, theres more to it than going to a google search, first off google patents search is not updated like the USPTO or Freepatents online…Searching patents is a gamble any way, I have to tell ya Im pretty damn good and quick at narrowing things down with a search ask anyone that knows me. Its always a gamble. You need to put hours into a search using different medthods in combination with each other. The novice inventors I’ve seen in the past never really dig there heals in and go the distance to get to the end.

posted October 27, 2009 15:56 (
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good point Mo. But I didn’t know if Clinton had actually tried any searches yet, n was jus tryin to get him started up… but yeah USPTO also and more too, Freepatentsonline is good too

posted October 27, 2009 16:29 (
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again, I want to thank everyone for their kind and tactiful support. I never had any idea that such a community as this even existed. one of my inventions can be fabricated with “off the shelf” materials and technologies for about $35. So I’m guessing that a manufacturer that is already enabled with all the right stuff to get the job done can do it for less than 7 USD a unit can do it and still make a margin of profit for everyone to be happy.

posted October 27, 2009 17:34 (
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again, I WANT TO THANK EVERERONEfor their kind and tactful support. one of my ideas can be fabricated with “off the shelf” materials and technologies for about $35 u.s. . So I’m guessing that a manufacturer who is already equiped to do such a thing as to make it real can do it for 7 dollars or less and still make everyone happy with some margin of profit.

all i’m looking for now is a licensee to make a gamble on me.
posted October 27, 2009 17:45 (
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oops. i just posted twice.

posted October 27, 2009 17:46 (
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Roger Brown
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Clinton, welcome to the site. First you asked about anyone in Portland willing to take a risk. Try http://www.monkeybusinesssports.com They are a toy company in portland, Or They product two of my toys and are great to work with.
As for the other ideas I agree with Gizmo. The first thing you need to realize is that not every idea is a million dollar idea and not every idea that is patented is marketable. Can you tell me at what stage of development your ideas are? Don’t tell me the ideas, just tell me are they in detailed drawings, rough drawings, prototypes, etc.
It will help me determine what kind of help you need. Also, what have you done to see if these aideas already exist?
You can see examples of sell sheets at my website listed below.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted October 27, 2009 18:20 (
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thanks roger, but my gut is telling me to be prudent at this juncture.

posted October 27, 2009 18:57 (
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Roger Brown
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HI Clinton, I am not sure what you mean by prudent since you have stated that they already have seen your idea. Or are you referring to not answering my questions above? Because answering those questions does not give away any of your products benefits or features. I am asking those questions to assess where you are in the process so we can help.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted October 28, 2009 01:55 (
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i have a works like and looks like prototype for a chess variant that makes sense. it is also copyrighted.please pardon me if I seemed a little cautious.I did have a chance to view your websites however, and it didn’t seem to the type of manufacturer that would be interested in producing my game invetion. I’m not certain if the toy company your working with would want to produce it in te fist place. the target demographic is people twixt age 08 and 35, and the target markets are plentiful. I will have another more in-depth look at your suggested sites thogh. Again, my apologies for seeming aloof and [well, snotty]

posted October 28, 2009 14:46 (
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Brandon Coleman
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Don’t reside in the paranoia stage…Amateur mistake.

posted October 28, 2009 15:18 (
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Hey Roger,
I am a toy & game designer also. Which of the products at Monkey are yours?
Best regards,
Lisa

posted October 28, 2009 15:34 (
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Clinton,
Have you “play tested” your prototype yet? I ask this because it is of utmost importance to have all game play worst case scenarios ironed out before you submit your concept. Also how did you develop the age range recommendation?
Good Luck,
Lisa

posted October 28, 2009 15:48 (
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Thanks Lisa. I went out and about with a healthy supply of NDAs and an artillery of short surveys and hoofed it. I did my homework.

posted October 28, 2009 16:24 (
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P.S. thanks brandon. I’m not into paranoia all that much. It always gets in my way. so I shall keep your advie in mind.

posted October 28, 2009 16:29 (
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Lisa, KNockout Hockey and Power Pitch Horseshoes are mine. You can see them at my website.

Http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted October 28, 2009 17:03 (
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hey roger, I took that more in depth look. you can reach me at gibson.clintonr@gmail.com. I like to hear a persons voice if I’m going to do business with them my O.S. wont allow me to upload photos, but that’s neither here nor there. Let’s talk.

posted October 28, 2009 18:20 (
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Clinton, I agree Monkey Business Sports would not be a good fit for you. I mentioned them prior to knowing want area your product fit into. I will look through my database and see if I have any contacts that might fit better and email you. I don’t do phone calls that often due to the fact that I have had issues with Inventors calling me at all hours 24 hours a day wanting to talk for two hours or more. They also posted my home number on various websites causing even more calls until I changed my number. I average 45 emails a day asking for advice, help, offers for collaborating, or to give a review of pages of material. Now, magine if they all called me.
I answer via email because it allows me to answer them at my own pace other wise it would be a 50 hour a week job that I am doing for free. I want to help Inventors as much as possible, but I also need some privacy and time to work on my own projects. Plus, I have found that having to write down their idea seems to help them condense the idea down to a couple of paragraphs since most people hate to write. That way I get the meat of the problem quicker and it takes less time for me to respond.

Http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted October 29, 2009 02:13 (
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Clinton,
Why 8-35 year age range? I understand the start point, but why stop at 35? What about your game would not appeal to 35 and over?

posted October 29, 2009 04:38 (
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Very Cool Roger! Especially like Knockout Hockey game.

posted October 29, 2009 04:43 (
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Roger. AMEN and AMEN AGAIN!!!!! Lisa when I was on walkabout with my game, that seemed to be the age group that most people appreciated my game in.
posted October 29, 2009 06:59 (
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How many of you (excluding roger) that have chosen to feed back on my blog here has a functional prototype of their product? (also other than myself)? Ive had one for months (protected) and just completed another. please tell me some success stories. I could use the encouragement.

posted October 29, 2009 12:10 (
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Hi. I haven’t heard from anyone in a couple of days. Is any one there? I’d like to speak with Roger if possible. also, I’ve been looking over my replies, and taken from unbiased view, my replies look a bit on the scathing side. This has been remedied. I offer and extend my apologies to everyone.

posted October 30, 2009 16:19 (
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hello?

posted October 31, 2009 06:56 (
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Roger Brown
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I was on vacation over the weekend, just got back. I don’t see where you posted any new questions to respond too.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted November 01, 2009 20:49 (
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clinton gibson
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Hi Roger do you know where I can get a licensee if I lack money?

posted November 03, 2009 05:29 (
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Look on this website for the thread titled INventor friendly companies and you will see a number of companies you can approach with little to no money.

http://www.edisonnation.com/forums/market-resea...

http://:www.rogerbrown.net

posted November 03, 2009 20:20 (
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Listen to Roger and Ron, they will guide in the right direction. You can trust them as everyone on these forums will atest to.

posted November 04, 2009 14:37 (
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roger. I checked out the addresses you gave me, but I couldn’t find any toy and game manufacturers out there that could possibly get my game on the shelves. would you possibly be able to hook me up with a licensee here in the Portland, OR. area?

posted November 08, 2009 22:06 (
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Roger Brown
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Clinton, Monkey Business Sports and Hogwild toys are the only toy companys I know of in that area. My suggestion to you is go to all the toy stores in your area and see if any of the companies currently producing toys looks like they do toys in your style and contact them.

example
Leapin’ Lizards Toy Company 953 NW Wall St, Bend, OR 97701
Western Toy Manufacturing Co Inc 3833 SE Milwaukie Ave, Portland, OR 97202
http://www.hogwildtoys.com/ I doubt they do board games
http://www.thinkertoysoregon.com/

Good Luck

http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted November 09, 2009 02:11 (
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brendan reen
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You know what I like about you Roger, you are always smiling. and I dont think you ever say die.
And your inventions are good too.

posted November 09, 2009 11:59 (
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Roger Brown
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I’m to stubborn to know when to quit. LOL Actually, it all goes with a saying I wrote
“Dreams are accomplished by those that do, not by those who wish.”

http://www.rogerbrown.net

posted November 10, 2009 19:19 (
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brendan reen
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someone told me that photo was taken, when you were kidnapped abroad, and torturers were working on your toe nails, with your shirt and tie still on, your hands tied behind your back on a chair, you broke the spirit of the bad guys.

posted November 16, 2009 04:36 (
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brendan reen
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someone recognised you had the iron will of an inventor, and so after your ordeal you became an inventor
Right!

posted November 16, 2009 04:39 (
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Ron Komorowski
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In this business, if you have less than $250,000 to invest in your idea you can call yourself “no money to invest” because a product launch really should cost about $1,000,000 for a large circulation and this cost is the minimum.

My product surely could use one million if I went that way….to push with money. Who has that? Either you have it or you don’t have enough money.

I had about $500 to spend for printing brochures after money for patents. Having this little was good! I sought solid alliances with manufacturers which were free, sought medical backing for free instead of paying 10’s of thousands, and most important…sought free publicity instead of paid advertising. A good story about your product can be worth many times the value of an advertisement.

All of these things I did with no money are just great for me now because I am not in debt and my profit margin is much higher. A couple of years ago I was looking for an investor offering 100% return. (A big win for an angel investor is to get back triple invested) I am so glad now that I did not find an investor that I liked the terms. They all wanted to stay with my project. I wanted to give them a profit and cut them loose quickly. If I had an investor they would have taken much of the profits for something I really didn’t need.

What I really needed was time, patience and free publicity. Building a brand and a product following just takes time and sometimes money can’t change that much because the amounts to do so are too expensive even for the largest of companies.

Ron Komorowski
Inventor of Handi-Straps
www.handi-straps.com

posted November 16, 2009 07:58 (
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I agree Ron,

Thank goodness I didn’t have any money when I first started.

Limited resources cause you to be resourceful and innovative – we called it the power or poor!

www.FlexRight.net

posted November 16, 2009 08:59 (
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Ron Komorowski
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You said it! That resourcefulness ends up paying off bigger than if you had money to build everything.

Because of the way I did things I am supposed to get a spot on national news and Entrepreneur Magazine wants to do a story as well as a pile others and many have done my story. How much is that worth?

I like your website and your product. So many houses have a “bad” flow of heat/AC that makes “cold and hot” rooms different from the others and bad flow is very wasteful for energy…your product can help!
posted November 16, 2009 10:18 (
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Hi Ron,

You and I have a lot in common – I come from a construction background as well.

Thanks for the nice comment.

The recent focus on saving energy is helping us sell this product all over the world right now.

Dale

www.FlexRight.net

posted November 16, 2009 10:26 (
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brendan reen
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the posters on this thread have been an inspiration to me, It gets me back on the track of contacting companies again, and you have all the relevant links as well.

posted November 16, 2009 11:40 (
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Don Kelly
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Clinton
Before you get in too deep (or suffer too much product exposure ) follow William Ricely’s advice about doing a Google (Patent) search. (Be sure you’re in http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en People may advise you to try other search tools, but from your questions I suspect this is the place for you to begin building personal knowledge and sharpening your skills. Don’t engage any “pros” on this forum or elsewhere until you do this for yourself. Secondly, I suggest you drop by MIPO (Micro-enterprise Inventors Program of Oregon) located in downtown Portland. Talk w/Director Kedma Ough. She often arranges for volunteer patent agents/attorneys as well as marketing folks to provide free counseling to visiting inventors. At Kedma’s request, I’ve done some of that counseling in Portland and via telecon from Alexandria, VA. Clinton, candidly, the words “high risk” and “licensees” just shouldn’t ever appear in the same sentence. Please try the following. (1)Do your best to validate the novelty/worth of your invention(s) before further exposing them or trying to use them to leverage investor funds. Self-starting with the simple Google search approach isn’t perfect but it’s a beginning. (2)Hit the local discount bookstores and do some homework. I wish you well. Don Kelly

posted November 16, 2009 13:24 (
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