Dug up old thread rather than start new one. I just read about a company which manufactures personal care products. “Your Product Idea. Created by Us. Developed for ____”. “Personal care contract manufacturer offering custom and private label formulations.”

If anyone has any interest, contact me and I will give you the info.

I wouldn’t think twice about approaching you and Kim for manufacturing help when/if I need it.

I’m also happy Kim came in and put up some numbers. I never thought manufacturing could be so cheap. Well, cheap compared to the numbers I had in my head.

I have had one dealing with Kim and I’m completely happy with the outcome.

Thanks everyone and very cool Kim that you got on here and laid things out for people.

Look, I have nothing to ever hide, nor does Kim, or anyone else that I know to be very reputable in this business. Kim and I collaborate regularly on projects and we both mentor tons of inventors for free…but we do run businesses (separately but we collaborate on many ventures) and make no attempt to hide the fact that we are in business to make money. Who isn’t? I have posted TONS of articles here at EN, write for Inventors Digest, and host endless appearances all over the country on my own dime to help people. Sure, I ultimately benefit down the road when people hire me but I always tell people straight up about anything they want to know. The fact that I offered to have Ron call me off line means just that…if he has questions he could call me. I know Ron. The purpose of any forum is not to use it as a place to hurt people, black list people, or argue or air dirty laundry. I am as transparent as they come…but some people take things in writing out of context and so often it is best to just talk to people about stuff.

Anyway, I am rambling :) I appreciate the support of everyone who feels I am a true asset to the industry and I will continue my pursuit of guiding inventors the best way I can!

Jim

David,

Inventor’s Mentors is the site. Kim and Jim are both mentors there. Kim and Jim are in business together and that has nothing to do with the Inventor mentor site, nor are they part of a ‘little group’

Stephen Bozzone is who you are asking about. Wonderful person with the best interest of inventors at heart.
I have not used his services but I probably will in the future when I need to.

Here is his site

http://inventionaddict.com/2010/03/23/1408/

Kim,

Glad you showed to say your side. I hate when someone trys to tell what happened to someone else and leaves out the story, basically telling the ending and not even what happened. In the end you get a fairy tale based strictly on emotional appeal.

I did business with a marketing company over a year ago, they cleaned my clock (pocket book). But, I got what I paid for, not what they really promised me, but per the agreement.Their motives were not in line with what they promised, their quality and timeliness were TERRIBLE. I would NEVER refer them to anyone that considers working with them. But… it is not my job to blast them. If someone ever mentions them and is seeking advice, I will offer my experience based on the facts. I would offer to even go to the company in question and sit down in front of them and let them try and defend themselves, I don’t think they would.

Without mentioning who it is, let me just say that if your marketing people live in Kansas, PLEASE call me. I have a few things to discuss

The other side of the story! I am not clear what this client took issue with; other than her expiations of how the manufacturing process should be, versus the reality of it…. This client paid for my services on 4-3-2009. On 6-2-2009 she had a full manufacturing program provided to her.
Her quote was provided to her within 18 days after she fully provided us all the information we needed to get her program completed, and sent onto 3 factories for quotes; that is a marathon time frame. After the quote was presented is when the client decided that the $20K + for an initial order was not now in her budget. At that point my job was completed, and it was up to the client to either pursue the program or not. She chose not to go forward with the manufacturing.
I feel it is so important for agents to educate new clients as much as possible on the costs and the process of manufacturing. I ask my clients read and acknowledge our companies information packet, by signing an acknowledgement letter that they understand the process. This info insures me and my client that he/she understands what they are getting into. This client must have forgotten she signed and acknowledged this form before we even started the program.
It is a good practice to hire an agent, whether it is for manufacturing or product development that is experienced and knowledgeable in an area you are not. Services like Edison Nation, and others, are great resources. Each inventor and the path they choose to bring their product to market is very emotional. As a product developer it is good practice to be diligent in your pursuit of whom you will use to help in the process. There is good and bad in everything, doing your research is highly recommended. An agent should explain the entire process clearly to clients so that they can minimize risk, manage their expiations and make the process as enjoyable as possible! I am sorry this was not achieved with this client, and hopefully she has been successful in her endeavor.
Kim Babjak
Founder
602-403-2694
KimCo LLC

I meant Jim in the article above not Ron, Its hard to tell you guys a part.

Who else are in this little group with Kim and Jim, I think they call themselves mentors inventors, something like that, any way I am trying to get hold of I think his last name is Bosomme or something like that, maybe first name Steve RING ANY BELLS LET ME KNOW THANKS And have any of you had any dealings with him?

Ron if you thought for sure she did not do anything wrong, then why do you feel the need to take it off this thread to talk about it. And what would make the difference who it was, it happened too, would it be different if it were, lets say the Pope.

We know why you want to take this discussion off line and away from us.
It is because you know the same could and might come up with you, and your customers, and would not want them to talk on line about you. Its the same all over, just like cops protect cops. Why do you think cops have locks on there lockers at work, you know why.

This is what I think, since you did not want to let us in. Maybe others don’t think this way.
Jim being a real good friend, maybe you can get here to write what she thinks here, if we do not air these things out in public, how will we know, she may do the same to us all.

Like you said, there are two sides to every story, so I say, we give her the benefit of the doubt, and remove her name from our black list when she tells her side.

Jim there are only two people I trust on this forum one of them is you, and the other one is me, and I’m not so sure about you. Ha Ha

Thanks for the answer Jim :-)

Hey Ron!

I cannot speak on this incident since I don’t know who it is (you can email me off line if you like) but Kim has done work with me on various projects and it has been fine. I find it hard to believe she would take money from someone and do nothing…There are always multiple sides to any situation and so without the other there is no way I can comment….

Inventor mom – hey! We usually work directly with the factories but sometimes we use other agents to assist us if we need to. Yes, paying for this service means you will pay a bit more for your product but the trade off is – go it alone and take your chances or use people like me who can likely prevent a disaster which can be far more costly….

I’m curious about this.

Do Kim and Jim work directly with the manufacture; or do they use a rep? That would mean there are now two extra pockets to fill. Theirs and the rep’s.

Working directly with a manufacturer is obviously cutting out all the middle people.

We know people do not give these connections away for free, nor do I expect them to. I would just want to know how far my penny needs to stretch ;-)

Manufacturing reps can charge 18%(+/-) Something to add to that retail price.

Kim Babjak took $3500 from an inventor that I recommended to and did literally nothing. Atleast here at EN you are only out 25 bucks for the same services. I feel like I owe this person $3500 and I recommended her because of you recommending. Kim Babjak’s expertise was in the same category as this inventor too, thought it would be a fit. Kim Babjak should worry about her own inventions if she is going to do that. You know who this woman is.

Everyone brings a product or two to market and then is an expert….bullshit!

Since this is Edison Nation’s platform I will say. Edison Nation is your best bet. For 25 bucks you could end up a millionaire, on TV, in magazines and have a bona fide endorsed inventor career!!!! who else can give you all of that for 25 bucks?

Edison Nation is your best bet….and they seem to know when to hold off in this economy so they don’t lost the invention and money invested.

thanks so much. Those are great leads!

Go to www.Thomasnet.com for manufacturers here in the USA.

SEARCH FOR BASKETBALL NETS

A google search for ’ sporting goods chinese’ yielded

http://www.made-in-china.com/Sporting-Goods-Rec...

which in turn led to

http://haitiannetting.en.made-in-china.com/

they make nets.

Not Mexico, but a start.