What ELSE should I be asking about the Inventing process?

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Inventors, who are fortunate enough to come across this site, have found an amazing resource to get all of their questions answered. All they have to do is ask on a topic page or search for their question in the ‘search’ field and they will find the answers not only from several ‘experts’ but also from everyday inventors with a wealth of knowledge from their own experiences.

And this is a very good thing!….but…

What about the questions that we have no clue that we SHOULD be asking as well? Speaking as a clueless inventor myself, I know I have asked a lot of questions. And I have never been disappointed in the responses and feedback I’ve received, but I have learned from reading a lot of these threads that there is a whole lot in here that I need to know more about and just didn’t know I needed to ask.

Please cast your thoughts back in time to when you were a newbie and discovered some question or tidbit of information that was a real ‘eyeopener’. Share your experiences of how you may have been ‘burned’ in the past because you simply didn’t know.

Please Post those questions HERE along with the LINKS to those forum threads where we (the uninformed newbies) can find more details and answers.

posted March 01, 2011 09:55 (
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Excellent points Roger!!!

And Dear Newbies…I neglected to mention that if you type ‘Roger Brown’ into the search field you will find you have unearthed a goldmine of information!!!

posted June 05, 2011 00:40 (
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I would also point out that once you find that thread you are looking for don’t stop there. Put in the same topic again and see you get additional hits. You may find other threads that offer even more info. Don’t forget to check outthe links yo may find within those threads too. Doing these searches can help you build a good foundation and help you make an informed decision when you move forward with your idea.

posted June 04, 2011 10:49 (
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Welcome Newbies!!! I was where you are just a short time ago. Pay attention to what Julie and Penster are sharing with you! They are two of the wisest and more seasoned veterans of EN! Take your time and browse the past forum pages. Start with the list of forums to see how they are broken down and then check out the topics in each category.Chances are one will catch your eye and it always makes for great reading. Then after you’ve done all that, type your key phrases in the search field (just don’t be overwhelmed by what pops up) it’s rare that you won’t get any hits…if you don’t then that’s the time to ask your question or post a new topic.

Again Wecome! If you are serious about inventing and still want to have fun then you have come to the right place!!!!

posted June 04, 2011 10:04 (
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I do not see an “outburst”, just needed guidance, we all need that, at all stages of life. If we don’t like it, we have limits, barriers….and so on.

Backing you up is easy…………unless it is really hot there and someone has really ticked you off…..then again….you snicker and laugh… a true gift……..w/sarcasm… very entertaining, and honest.

P.S. Not out & about….dog sitting…16 paws and you know the rest…..it’s a feed & scoop challenge.

Once again Newbies, we all been there, don’t take shortcuts, if you got the gift, great………….now you need to spend time learning what the options are, then ask questions.

Nite all………….gotta go see a pic of someone very special. Note to all: Upper right hand corner….SEARCH….a treasure chest!

posted June 02, 2011 21:30 (
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Penster, I don’t know that even bug spray will protect them from my outbursts – thank you for backing me up.

posted June 02, 2011 19:19 (
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You really want us to “look” for the answer here? That takes effort…………..hmmmm so does inventing…….patent searches…contracts, manufacturing, .and so on.

Taking the shortcuts will reward one accordingly. Look for the answer, then ask more in depth questions….if you are truly an inventor, you are curious and know research is a key component. Welcome newbies, we all been there. The search button holds thousands of posts with information…….some with humor and other stuff, submerge, absorb and then………..

IMO

Cheers Julie…..it’s like summer camp, a new batch a week, and they forgot their bug spray……..and sunscreen.

Have fun learning newbies, this is a great place to be, welcome.

posted June 02, 2011 18:46 (
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I suggest that the last three people who posted learn how to use both the “Contact Us” button (in black at very top of page) and the little green ‘search’ button at the top of every thread. All you have to do is search things like “license or manufacture” or “status of my submittal” or “will EN contact me” or “submitting same idea twice”, and so on.

For those of us who have been here a long time (many from the beginning of EN), we might not have all the patience in the world since almost every question has been answered before and probably many, many times. Maybe do a little searching before asking. Just a suggestion.

posted June 02, 2011 17:34 (
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Is it better to license or manfacture your product? I have several ideas I think would make great products in the suto industry.

posted June 02, 2011 16:39 (
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Hello will I hear from ED everyweek on my ideas?

posted May 29, 2011 15:30 (
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Why can’t we submit our idea again for free again even if it’s not patent? You do it for free anyway this month.I want to submit my idea again.

posted May 25, 2011 20:44 (
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@Dave – You wrote: “I got a e-mail yesterday that wanted me to say I was someone I was not”….. that’s why I wrote “WTF??”

I certainly hope it was no one on here who did that.

posted March 03, 2011 09:19 (
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Thanks David. We’re all we’ve got. No skyscrapers in the mud…I like that.

posted March 03, 2011 09:10 (
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@Dave – WTF???

posted March 03, 2011 08:58 (
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kat,
this thread has organizing tips
http://www.edisonnation.com/forums/creativity/t...

and here is a lot more info on the Top Ten Mistakes Inventors make Courtesy of Roger Brown
http://www.edisonnation.com/forums/creativity/t...

(this is the same one Roger posted above…just wanted to show an example of the form I’d like this thread to take…i.e. someone asks/or recommends a question and then the links to all the info elsewhere on these threads is posted here…kind of a quicky-link page)

posted March 02, 2011 20:42 (
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Or since you are already online start a series of reference folders you can keep on your desktop or use one of those online document storage sites…then you can access the info from any computer…one of the threads I posted on in the bginning we talked about this…I’ll look it up and post the link here.

posted March 02, 2011 11:46 (
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That’s good to know Roger. Will they then ask you which company you develop for? I’m a horrible liar.

Krissie, right? The frustrating part is reading up on everything…then trying to remember. Maybe I need to make a forum binder and print out and categorize all the different topics for quick reference.

posted March 02, 2011 10:06 (
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Kat I love the last two lines of your post!!!!

posted March 02, 2011 09:15 (
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Hi All – I did find that thread Roger (about cost) and also watched Key’s video on how to figure out cost by calling companies, but that still intimidates me greatly and my latest submission for ASOTV is a yet to be invented idea (I know – impossible, but true!). So it would be difficult for me to get a quote if I found the nerve; I guess I’d have to do NDAs w/ company?

I also found another thread on here discussing how much detail to put into submission (which you provided great info on) and one of your threads on IS about preparing. I just think it might be nice to start a new discussion w/ the people I am now familiar with, but I suppose that could be superfluous.

I think Krissie is certainly right about doing homework. And while we are so eager we do need to realize that we all must stumble through our way of gaining knowledge. But that’s part of the beloved journey!

posted March 02, 2011 08:52 (
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These are great tips on how to avoid making common mistakes that can hinder you in getting your ideas/inventions to the right people and hopefully save you a lot of money, grief and aggravation in the long run!

NEWBIES (and be assured that at the time of this writing I am very much a newbie myself)
Do your homework…I’m not going to lie…it is going to take hours of research (hours=weeks if truth be told) some of it will be tedious and repetitive…but do it!!! If you rush through it you are just going to increase your risk of failure, not to mention throwing your money away for nothing. And that money could be the $20/25 you spend on a submission to EN or the hundreds to tens of thousands of dollars you could spend on patent applications. The amount of money is relative to your individual situation and means of course, for me $25 is huge, for you, 25grand may be a drop in the bucket…but nowhere should it be trash to be thrown away.

The resources are here on EN and they will help you beyond your wildest expectations…but you have to work for it…

posted March 02, 2011 06:27 (
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The first would be: “Should I use the Search feature here at EN?” LOL

Krissie it is really not a question they miss asking it is the approach they take. I get contacted by Inventors daily and not a week goes by without someone telling how much money they spent before realizing their mistake. I have had three this week talk about spending between $1,100 and $8,000 with invention submission companies before they realized they are paying for services they didn’t need or could have done themselves with some work on their end. As one person told me he found EN about a week after paying an invention submission company $745 for their initial agreement. He saw a post I wrote talking about doing a quick look on google.com/patents or freepatentsonline.com before paying someone else to do it and found the idea he submitted to the Invention submission company within 20 minutes. He said he knows now he blew the money and wished he had found EN two weeks earlier. He is interested to see if the invention submission company will come back saying they found his idea and he shouldn’t persue it or if they will try and sell him more services.

Below are things Inventors need to do or understand when it comes to inventing if they want to succeed.
http://www.edisonnation.com/forums/creativity/t...

1. Understand that inventing is a business. Treat it like one.

2. Actually research your idea before you send it to a company. Don’t tell them “There’s nothing out there like this!” When spending 2 minutes on the web they find several items exactly like yours.

3. Understand every company has a different method and time range for reviewing submissions. Don’t send a proposal on Monday via snail mail and call them Tuesday at 8:30am wanting to know when they will be sending you a contract. It is a simple task to ask the company you are submitting material for review “What is your normal turnaround for reviewing submissions?”

4. Don’t be married to your product and totally against changes to make it marketable.

5. Put your contact information on every item you send them. Don’t make them guess who sent it.

6. Don’t send prototypes unsolicted. Let them know a prototype is available upon request. You can’t expect a company to pay shipping for every prototype they receive unsolicted.

7. Understand every idea is not a million dollar idea. Yes,there are million dollar ideas, but they are not the majority of ideas. Be realistic in your expectations

8. Realize everyone that rejects your idea is not stupid.

9. Don"t send a 20 page explanantion of your product. Be concise and clear on your sell sheet. If it takes more than two pages to explain your idea you have a problem.

10. Know who you are sending your submission to in the company. Don’t assume they will figure it out for you if you just send it in care of the company.

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I agree Roger!!! The Search field has been a godsend…once I realized it was there (I can get a little over-excited sometimes and get so eager to find out the answers to my burning questions that I don’t even see what is right in front of me-blush blush I did this a lot in the beginning but you all were pretty quick to jump in and point me in the right direction of the search button)

Roger-you’ve been here since the beginning and I know you’ve seen a lot of the same questions asked over and over and over again…but is there a question you don’t see asked very often (if at all) that all of us (not just the newbies) Should ask?

posted March 02, 2011 05:27 (
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Krissie, the biggest help right now for a newbie is to put any word they have seen or heard they don’t understand into the Search feature above. As I have stated before it is the most underused feature of this site and has the potential to be your best resource.
Taking just one of the questions above posted by Katherine look what shows up for “Suggested retail price” http://www.edisonnation.com/posts?q=suggested+r...
Looking at those threads I am sure will give you great information and additional words to use in your next search.

posted March 02, 2011 05:07 (
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That sounds like a perfect meal….

And it’s really sound advice about pushing your product, great tips!

And the part about keeping your posts clean I really like! Not because I’m a prude or anything like that…but what if a future client for your product decided to do a little research of their own about you, the inventor, and he ran across a post or two that you had made here on EN (I googled myself and actually got a couple of hits on posts I had replied on, boy was I shocked)…are you going to be confident that he’s not going to read anything you might regret having written? Again David !!! Great tips!!!!!

posted March 02, 2011 05:04 (
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David…are you enjoying a pint or or perhaps some Glenfiddich 30year old Scotch??? Tell us something you wish you had known when you first tried to get your idea off the ground. Something that wasn’t obvious but very important to know about.

posted March 01, 2011 18:35 (
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Kat, these are great questions! With all the threads on this forum the info may actually already be there and we simply haven’t found it yet or asked the right question to locate it in the search field. This is where the feedback from our EN senior forum members and experts can help. They can post the links here to where we’ll find the answers or decide if it’s worthy of a new topic thread. Then maybe we can eliminate the some of the duplicate, triplicate, quadrupled, etc…new questions that keep popping up from us newbies..(I know that I myself have been guilty of this especially in the beginning when I didn’t know better)

posted March 01, 2011 11:23 (
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I’m still a newbie, and I would love to see a thread started about preparing/perfecting our submissions to EN! I’d love to hear other perspectives about how and what to share in the description portion, the innovation portion, the problem solved portion. And I also have no clue what I’m doing when they ask for a suggested retail price – total guess for me based on my own consumerism, not actual cost to manufacture.

I don’t know if that is along the line of what you are proposing here, Krissie, but I thought I’d throw it out there as I don’t think I’ve ever seen a thread about this here.

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