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brendan reen
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Hi everybody
I am looking for someone to push through this patent in the states 75% to anybody willing to give it a go.
pct opinion says its patentable like the uspto they just recommended I needed to amend it for clarification
I studied loads of patents and patent directives in the last 3 months and realise now what they are asking me is obvious, straight-forward, it just needs a little more experienced polishing of the new changes I now see necessary or maybe just a laymans effort and discussion with an examiner.
http://www.boxerballs.com/

posted February 22, 2010 07:56 (
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mary houle
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Hi you have written your own patent if I understand correctly. Any tips you could pass along. thank you :o)

Mary

posted February 24, 2010 06:55 (
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Mary, the best tip anyone can give you is to hire a patent agent. Don’t make the mistake of doing it yourself. Patents have their own language and if you really want a patent please get an expert to handle it.
However, if you want to do it yourself then I would suggest you go to the patent office and read successfully issued patents and see how they are written and all that is involved. Reading successful and rejected patents will give you a lot of insight, far more than buying a book……

http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair

posted February 24, 2010 08:52 (
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You can also read patents online at http://www.google.com/patents and suggest getting the book “Patent It Yourself” by Pressman.

posted February 24, 2010 09:35 (
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To elaborate on Ken’s suggestion, a couple of caveats:

1.) Just because a patent was issued does not necessarily make it “successful.” It may offer virtually meaningless protection. In fact, a good way to get a patent issued easy is to include deliberately narrow claims. But that’s not in your best interest.

Its best to look at not just issued patents, but valuable patents. While patent valuation is time consuming and costly, one easy thing you can do is to search for news articles or case law regarding “successful” patent infringement suits. Note the number of the patent which was found to be infringed. Look at that patent. One simple resource for searching caselaw (put together by myself) can be found at tr.im/caselaw

2.) Along those lines, especially when dealing with claims (claims are not necessary in a provisional app), its important to note that the difference between one word and a word that might seem identical to most people can at times mean all the difference in the world between a valuable patent and a worthless patent (although, it won’t necessarily result in a rejected application). Hence, it is valuable to read up on the subject in addition to reading issued patents, because certain contained within others’ work can easily escape your notice and/or simply float above your head. The classic, textbook example is ‘comprising’ versus ‘consisting,’ although I am pretty sure there are many other lesser faults to avoid.

posted February 24, 2010 16:21 (
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Susan E.
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Mary -

I’m very glad I invested in a patent attorney. In many cases, it can mean the difference between having a patent that’s valuable or worthless… or not getting a patent at all.

If you’re unfamiliar with the process and don’t know where to start, you shouldn’t approach it as a do-it-yourself project. At the very least, perhaps you can write the description and claims as best you can and find a patent attorney who would be willing to review and refine what you’ve written.

posted February 24, 2010 23:12 (
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brendan reen
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To Mary’s question and others
No I got my patent professionally drafted in the beginning, anything else would be patent suicide I think,
I ran out of funds and got to amend the claims now myself

How to Write a Patent Application Jeffrey G. Sheldon

I read the above, download on line, and I done a random patent a day, off the espace.com search site. I treated the claims like a crossword or game. I did not look at anything but tried to draw each invention just by reading the first 2 or 3 claims,
I soon got a lot better at reading claims after the first 10 or 15 I think
more fun than doing a crossword if you choose to think about it like that

posted February 26, 2010 06:21 (
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brendan reen
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also thanks to everybody for the links etc.

posted February 26, 2010 06:25 (
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Thank you also to all for your imput. I will be using a patent agent and will be filing a provisional. Have to have all this done by the 19th of march for my audition for the Dragons Den show. Brendan you can have it reviewed by and agent at a cost of course. Good luck to you. :o)

posted March 01, 2010 10:26 (
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brendan reen
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After 4 years on my training device (below link) I only figured out how it actually worked this morning (the principles I mean). I made it and used it but I could never explain how it worked, now I can, and I must try and use this knowledge in the amendment communication.
In my humble experience, I learned I think, that, I should need to know the patent writing process as well as my attorney.
Reason is, some attorneys may not be honest with you, or the ones that are may not understand fully what your patent draft needs to say.

www.boxerballs.com

posted March 02, 2010 06:33 (
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brendan i just wanted to say kudos to you for the invention. i saw the video, looks like a good workout, like boxing another person since the balls are flying at you at random angles. clever; i could definitely see this on those As Seen On Tv commercials. good luck

posted March 02, 2010 08:39 (
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brendan reen
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Thanks Mary, and for anyone interested in knowing what it took me 4 years to find out?
after studying everything from patent writing, to neurology in this invention path. I finally said a prayer this morning, got a pen, and said, now Physics!! why does it work??
main factor is
Answer: the design of thick, walled narrow bored tubes used in the arms along with the flexible core, store enough potential energy i.e. gravitational energy, to move around each other constantly, each arm constantly trying to find zero potential point.
this would not occur in a thin walled tubes with flexible core
strange but true.
I am the first human being to discover the simplest theory of chaotic multiple targets.

posted March 02, 2010 10:11 (
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brendan reen
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I stuck with it because I knew it was unique and a design team would never have figured out a way to make multi-targets perform so well

(Though they are clever guys no doubt)

http://www.boxerballs.com/

posted March 04, 2010 05:35 (
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Cody Dalton
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I disagree that any patent could be worthless. There is really no such thing as a worthless patent.

For 1 thing, it could be used for I.P. stacking. Wherein, you could use it in conjunction with another patent or patents (plural).

Or, you could use it in a broad spectrum of patents wherein, you could use it to simply refer to it to explain or describe something in your detailed description. Of course, you could refer to anyones patent to explain something else. But then, you run the risk of having them or potentially even the examiner accuse you of at least “borrowing” from the other said patented invention.

Still yet, another thing that I’ve heard of that is relatively a new concept, is that some people are actually trading and selling patents, sometimes not even meant to be used… like stocks or savings bonds. Not sure how it works, but I’m interested…

posted April 13, 2010 01:51 (
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brendan reen
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actually reading my own posts there, correction, epo said patentable, uspto has not yet said that, mainly because my attorney accidently got most all the patent claim amendments cancelled bar two, think i need to
amend properly and explain the invention to uspto if they are to say patentable i think.

A patent attorney getting all your patent amendments cancelled, bar two,
Its the cruzifixion of an inventor, I must be Jesus!!
My own fault i must never leave a patent entirely in the hands of a attorney I think you got to be right there with him in (in mind I mean) it is too difficult a task

posted April 14, 2010 07:56 (
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brendan reen
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and my physics terminology is not up to scratch either, I must be tired when I do these posts
Thanks for the feedback Cody It inspired me a bit more

posted April 14, 2010 08:00 (
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