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Hi all,

I’ve aquired a trademark for the name “Shampoodle”, a very sellable name, for a pet shampoo, a common marketable product. I even created a mock up for it. I really don’t have the funds to get this off the ground but I do think it would be a huge seller.

1. Do I go to the companies that might put it on the shelf and present it to the big wigs.
2. Do I try and find a manufacturer of a similar pet shampoo product in the hopes that he would buy the name and perhaps a percent of the sales.
3. Are there investors out there who would help out someone just starting out? If so, how much will it cost me to get this off the ground? Sincerely, Lisa R. Lee

posted August 23, 2011 13:41 (
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Thanks Toni! I’m glad and excited to be here among so many great people!

posted August 24, 2011 18:32 (
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Welcome Lisa. Great place to enter all your inventions. The price is right and the people are great. I have made friends on this
site that I will keep for life.

posted August 24, 2011 18:07 (
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Lisa Lee
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Thanks fahrenheit94 for the nice welcome. It’s great to be among such amazing minds!

posted August 24, 2011 17:49 (
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Fairin Antonio
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HEY THERE Lisa !!!! Just wanted to say Hi and WELCOME to EN… !!! you seem like a go getter !! That’s good !! Have fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :))))

posted August 24, 2011 15:23 (
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Sleepyhead,

Yep. It’s a lot like having your hand in a box and not being able to see what is inside, having to just feel your way around – can be a bit spooky.

posted August 24, 2011 10:43 (
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You are very welcome. The path for most inventors can be treacherous because we don’t know what to ask or whom to ask. However, EN provides tons of valuable information but it does take some digging and a lot of sorting through the comments – which are opinions and which are factual.

posted August 24, 2011 10:34 (
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Lisa Lee
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Thanks Sleepyhead!

posted August 24, 2011 10:23 (
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Lisa, That little green search button in the upper right corner of every thread is a great help. Type in whatever word applies to your question and tons of info. will appear.

posted August 24, 2011 09:44 (
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Thanks design777!

I can use all the info I can get.

posted August 23, 2011 20:12 (
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You don’t have to have a patent in order to participate in the searches here, but Edison Nation does have the ‘Insider Licensing Program’ for individuals that do have patents. EN does recommend writing a well communicated description of the idea and also ‘suggests’ uploading jpg pictures of your concept and/or a video, I think under 2 minutes long, to also explain the idea. The better communicated, the easier for EN to process.

posted August 23, 2011 19:59 (
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Ok and thanks for the advice Charlie and design777! I will trust these folks here with my ideas and become an “Insider” (sometime).

Do I need a patent or just an outline of an idea in here?

Thanks folks!

posted August 23, 2011 19:35 (
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Oops Charlie, ditto haha I posted about the same time as you…

posted August 23, 2011 19:22 (
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Hi Lisa,

When you asked, “How do I get the rest of my ideas and inventions out there without it costing an arm and a leg?”, I don’t know if you have looked in detail at the Edison Nation website, but you can look at the searches that are going on currently and see if any match your ideas and inventions then submit them to EN. They have live product searches and innovation fund searches. It doesn’t cost very much and the benefits of seeing an idea get to fruition is a reasonable goal here. I also recommend, if it suits you, to become an ‘insider’ because of the smaller fees involved.

Take good care and I really hope this helps you

posted August 23, 2011 19:21 (
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Hi Lisa, welcome to EN. You asked also how you can get your ideas out, without it costing you an arm and leg? You have found that place already, Edison Nation is very safe and inventor friendly. The price is very resonable. Those are good reason to have them by your side as the rest of us do. Best of luck.

posted August 23, 2011 19:18 (
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Well, I guess I won’t be going after anyone for having my trademark name. You’re right. I did’nt do my homework. It’s my problem. I was given only a few months to get this done and then the trademark will “dead”. It did’nt cost that much. Really did like the idea though and learned quite a bit. The lesson was worth a great deal to me.

Thanks ya’ll

posted August 23, 2011 18:49 (
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Whether Andre has a trademark for it or not he is selling under that name. Having a Trademark or patent doesn’t matter to people unless you have the backing to go after them and make them stop. If you have the trademark do you plan to go after everyone using your trademark to sell the same type of products?

posted August 23, 2011 18:31 (
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Also Everyone,

How do I get the rest of my ideas and inventions out there without it costing an arm and a leg?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :)

posted August 23, 2011 17:14 (
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Sleepyhead, I recon you are correct about other shampoodles being out there in their domains. I just would like to get mine into the stores and since I have the trademark – I’m just trying to get info on how I could get it done if I were ambitious to try.

Thanks for your advice, sincerely.

posted August 23, 2011 17:11 (
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Your right Roger, it is Shampoodle (Andres’s Shampoodle) I’m not sure if he has a trademark for. I guess my hope is to have my “Shampoodle” in a PetSmart store some day and perhaps Wal-mart.

posted August 23, 2011 17:02 (
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You stated you have a shampoo with a specific name which is Shampoodle. Is this you? http://pelurious-poodles.com/?page_id=3&cat...
If not they are already selling Shampoodle shampoo for pets. I am not trying to shoot you down. I am just pointing out that you Trademarked a name and want to use it on a product for pets and it appears someone is already doing that. The reason I pointed out the domain name is that most people want to sell their product online using the same name as the product so it makes it easier for the consumer to find it. Right now if you were selling Shampoodle and I put that product name in Google I would find your competitor and not you.

posted August 23, 2011 16:55 (
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A shampoo, with the name shampoodle in it, is still a shampoo and several other companies are already using that name for their shampoos. I’m not sure where you are going with this – especially without a domain name.

The companies using the word shampoodle might be offering services but the services are based on shampooing a pet; otherwise, their using that word doesn’t make any sense.

But, good luck.

posted August 23, 2011 16:52 (
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Thanks Roger for taking the time to talk to me about these things. Does it matter that I am trying to market a shampoo called “Shampoodle” instead of what all those other domains are doing, i.e. “Shampoodle” the place, the service, etc. but not the shampoo?

posted August 23, 2011 16:51 (
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Yes, I do understand everything you all are saying. There are countless names and even domain names out there that are the same. However, I have a shampoo with a specific name and a specific purpose and a specific trademark.

Example: Ford – so if I started a business/ or product called Ford this would not be possible? There are countless companies with the name Ford including the auto company. Perhaps, none of them have a trademark – but they are all able to do business just the same.

I don’t believe I have to own the domain name in order to sell my product to a pet store or manufacturer – but I have to admit this whole invention business is a little unsettling. I have so many ideas for interesting names and item inventions and havent really got any clue how to get them out there without it costing a fortune.

posted August 23, 2011 16:43 (
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Shampoodle.com is registered to a company in Stockholm and they have been using it since 1998.

Domain…….: SHAMPOODLE.COM (DOM-105994)
Status…….: OK
Amended……: 2011-03-09 14:05:27 (CET/CEST)
Created……: 1998-03-10 06:00:00 (CET/CEST)
Expires……: 2012-03-09 06:00:00 (CET/CEST)

This is why I tell Inventors to do research upfront before you spend a dime. All it costs you is your time.

posted August 23, 2011 16:29 (
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Julie Brown

Lisa, Just consider this an expensive lesson learned. Even with the TM, you don’t have a domain name using that word and since there are so many other websites/domain names using shampoodle, (as Roger pointed out), it would cost you a lot of money to go after them to cease and desist using that name. Even then, they might have a case built on length of use. And we know that those with the shampoodle domain names didn’t bother trademarking the name; otherwise, their TMs would have shown up in the search.

Yours is not an uncommon mistake so don’t beat yourself up too much.

posted August 23, 2011 16:19 (
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There was a Dog Salon about a mile & a half from my house (S.E. Michigan) That was the name on the building… I’m not sure if it’s still there or not.

posted August 23, 2011 16:15 (
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Hi Lisa,

So I am clear. You are saying you don’t have a product that you are selling under this trademark. You are wanting to find a company that would want to use that name and pay you for the trademark. Before buying the trademark did you bother to see if anyone had purchased the domain name http://www.shampoodle.com/ http://www.shampoodledogwash.com/ http://twitter.com/#!/shampoodle

Most companies that would want to use a trademark also want to be a ble to use it online as a marketing tool. If there are numerous other products or companies using that name it can deter them from wanting the confusion.

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