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Heather S

Hi- my daughter & I have created a really cool idea, however, it’s has a small plastic part that I can’t seem to find anywhere thus far.
I do not want to use overseas sources just yet, I’m keeping this small so that I can sell them on my own for now. Question is, how do I get a small plastic part (I’m saying size of your thumbprint) made – without breaking the bank?
Thanks all!
Heather

posted December 28, 2011 05:30 (
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SHAWN GALLOWAY

Heather, another source to put in your contact list is protomold, just look them up. they have first cut as well so you can get quotes on small molding or machining projects. Cost of course goes down with greater volume.

posted January 24, 2012 06:02 (
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David .

Micheal it’s a great tool cad and less mess . Not like joinery I would really like to do a course to get the full potential of it.
It makes prototyping or artistic license easy.

posted December 30, 2011 11:15 (
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Dave, Nice illustrative work on your 12mm pitch!

posted December 30, 2011 10:23 (
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Jerry Shrimpton

Dave,

Just seeing your avatar photo, makes me excited. Now I will going crazy trying to think about what the rest of it is. Cool idea! :)

OH!! And thanks for the link above to that ICO MOLD company! I now have them looking at a project for me. :-)

posted December 30, 2011 05:43 (
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David .

Great news

posted December 30, 2011 05:32 (
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Heather S

I never do, Dave ;)
I am loving all of the support and offering of services! Everyone has been wonderful – especially Scooter, who is lending me a hand!! Can’t thank him enough!!
Now, onto bringing the components together. I found a source in China for the other element I seek for this little product.
Time to get busy!!

posted December 30, 2011 05:19 (
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David .

Hi Heather
Tooling costs money that’s it, You will always get better prices on volume. If you can make profit on this price then you will make more
when the volumes go up. It’s hard for me to speak about real costs but it’s a big eye opener when you get to the right people. numbers game.
You have on this site on your side of the pond some good people that are willing to lend a hand you do not have to give them the full product idea but if they are willing to help you create a 3D model and a low cost prototype to see if you have got a money making idea i would take the help. Best of luck Heather from across the pond. My avatar shows a part of a new product idea and i am happy to show it but you would never in a thousand years get what new product idea i want to use it for. That’s what i am saying when you only give people i little bit of the picture. Then it’s your job to bring all the components together . A little tip never judge a book by its cover.

Dave

posted December 30, 2011 03:26 (
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Heather S

With that site,
I got a part cost of about $460
cost per piece for about 1000 pieces is .22/each.
maybe I’m doing it wrong? it’s only like a cm wide.

posted December 29, 2011 13:09 (
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David .

Interesting link Michael .

posted December 29, 2011 10:26 (
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Heather,
I found this link for you, they have an online cost estimator that you can click on for cost ideas. For your part, I estimated .5×.5×.1 and simple part. Tooling was estimated at just over $300. The part quantity is the fun one…it is set at 200 parts (probably their minimum), but put a larger number in and watch the price per part drop.
Never worked with this company, but maybe a place to get started…http://www.icomold.com/

posted December 29, 2011 09:59 (
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Go get em Heather. Keep it simple! Everything is, until we think it’s not enough:)

posted December 29, 2011 09:46 (
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Heather S

yeah, I got confused… it’s all good. Yes, ours is SUPER simple- but, I hope a hit with teens/tweens/older kids.

posted December 29, 2011 09:26 (
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David .

Jerry the next hard bit is adding motion to make the product come alive this is a bit of a challenge also but getting there. Rpm and travel etc.

posted December 28, 2011 12:02 (
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Reminds me of a tool I once designed and prototyped wherein I needed a 1/16th in. pitch…a 3/8th coarse thread bolt was just the ticket!

Good Luck on your projects!

posted December 28, 2011 11:53 (
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Jerry Shrimpton

We go from a rather simple plastic part to this… “move forward 3m to 5 mm in just over 100 degree turn of a lever creating a locking action” and “For 3 to 5 mm of travel in 100 deg. you would be looking for aprox. a 12mm pitch. The pitch= the distance from the top of one thread to the top of the next” *My head is starting to spin fast :-)

Oh…and their is ALOT of brain picking going on in these forums and everyone seems to be very cool about it too! :))))

Best of luck Heather! Hope to see the finished product one day.

posted December 28, 2011 11:32 (
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with a 12mm pitch I would say its real fast! LOL

posted December 28, 2011 10:15 (
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David .

Think i just created a neat ride LOL It looks fast.

posted December 28, 2011 10:11 (
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Any time David. Good luck bro.

posted December 28, 2011 10:10 (
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Thanks a lot John that is what i call networking i owe you one .
Dave
Let’s see see if i can put it into practice.

posted December 28, 2011 10:07 (
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David, so what your trying to figure out is the pitch of the thread. For 3 to 5 mm of travel in 100 deg. you would be looking for aprox. a 12mm pitch.(The pitch= the distance from the top of one thread to the top of the next.) that should put you right in your range. Hope this helps. Btw, I’m not an engineer either but I’ve been machining for the better part of 17 years now and have learned alot of shortcuts in that time.

posted December 28, 2011 10:01 (
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David .

John i am working on a new design and i think a it would be good to incorporate a fast thread i want to make a machine screw move forward 3m to 5 mm in just over 100 degree turn of a lever creating a locking action. This i am drawing as i speak and it is a little hard for me to do in my 3d cad. It’s understanding the maths. I am a joiner not a engineer.

posted December 28, 2011 09:48 (
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Hey David, Fast threads? Do you mean like an ACME thread kinda like a ball screw on mills and lathes? What do you need to know about them?
Pick away Heather, I accepted your friend request and shot you an email. If you didn’t recieve it let me know and I’ll give you my yahoo addy.

posted December 28, 2011 09:24 (
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This is what I love about this place!

posted December 28, 2011 09:21 (
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Heather S

Thanks everyone!! John, I think I may just pick your brain about that!
Heather

posted December 28, 2011 09:16 (
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David .

John what do you know about fast threads i need a bit of help

posted December 28, 2011 09:16 (
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You can always look to local machine shops in your area. Small shops should be more that glad to help you out. I know, I run a machine shop. If you have any other questions about machine shops friend me and ask away. I would think you could get a machine shop to do it for under $50 if it’s that simple of a part. Heck, if it’s that simple I might just do it for the price of postage. I get bored sometimes. Ha!

posted December 28, 2011 08:59 (
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The craft store has lots of stuff. You can sculpt it and put it in the oven to harden.

posted December 28, 2011 07:20 (
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Heather,

If you can make an accurate model from wood,sculpty etc. you could then make a flexable rubber mold and produce the part yourself…check into Polytec or Smooth On they both sell mold and casting resins in small sizes and have excellent instructional support.

posted December 28, 2011 06:53 (
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Heather,

For a thumbprint size plastic part you could have a rapid prototype created in just a couple days for less than a hundred bucks. But you will have to have a cad image created as well, which my guess would be a hundred bucks or so as well. It may be worth it though if it will complete your prototype.

posted December 28, 2011 06:35 (
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Heather S

oh gosh, it’s so simple it’s ridiculous. I’ve tried looking at hardware stores, craft stores, just can’t find it… :(
I’ve found a toy manufacturer that makes something fairly close, but, I don’t think that’s a hot idea to take their product and make it into mine. ;)
Will it sell? That’s the million dollar question…

posted December 28, 2011 06:04 (
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David .

Hi Heather how complex is the part, moulds cost 1,000s have you prototyped the part yet! Will it sell. It’s all a risk if you have protection or can generate real orders you may find a small plastic manufacture to amortize the mould price in the part cost. Just a little feed back.
Good luck

posted December 28, 2011 05:57 (
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