Has anyone ever been to one of these seminars? I’m just wondering if it’s going to be one that provides just enough info to get you interested in buying the dvd/book/cd, or if he actually teaches the steps at the seminar.

margaret, i’ve been to 2 of his seminars…once he came to speak at my local inventors group…and once i heard him in the san francisco bay area…i had the benefit of listening to the same talk…he gives out a handout which is really a condensed version of his course…so he goes over the steps…i think an inventor would walk away from his talk with many pearls…

personally, i have not bought his course….but i know people who have bought the course….and they say there’s good stuff in it….i am currently in the process of licensing my 2nd product per ‘the stephen key method’….and i must say, it took me a while to fully understand his method—alot of it had to do with letting go of my inventor’s fears, which stemmed mostly from being new at this…..but now i approach licensing completely different from being exposed to stephen key’s thinking…

and of course, we all know why he does these speaking engagements (he’s in business, no doubt)…however, i didn’t feel like his talk was sales-y….he might have referred to his course once during his whole talk….

i have not heard his other talk about becoming a licensing agent, so i can’t speak about that seminar…

ps sir edward, i miss those ‘rock n’ roll’ pics of stephen and andrew….

Freaky Sir Edward!, But Stephen looks amazingly like someone turned the lights on your avatar!?

Eva,

Thanks for the info. Sounds intriguing. I think I’ll check it out. Congrats on licensing your second product!

margaret, thanks, but it’s not a done deal yet….i can’t get excited until i see the first check…

“ps sir edward, i miss those ‘rock n’ roll’ pics of stephen and andrew…”

Oh yeah, the inventRight Collector’s Edition Hot-Picks Set…Those were classic! I still can’t figure out why Stephen didn’t care for his Slash pick?! It was pretty sweet!

Oh well, at least they got a real kick out of them! I think the band poster is still available somewhere out there…In case you’re wanting one still?!

“Freaky Sir Edward!, But Stephen looks amazingly like someone turned the lights on your avatar!?”

Hmmm…? I might have responded to this particular comment, if I knew what it meant!?

I think Stephen got sick of us all…that is why he got rid of the forum. Sad…I did have some good times over there. I thought Stephen enjoyed some of the friends he made there and after all…he was learning a great deal just like all of us! Maybe his loss.

I also know I was getting many major hits on my website from links to his forum. That traffic has left Inventright, I know that because I am still on the invention gallery and the hits don’t happen like they did on the forum…companies like Home Depot and Proctor and Gamble headquarters even.

Maybe Stephen is listening???

Congratulations Eva!! Glad to see you have left the dark side and joined the licensing force. Licensing seems to be on the rise.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

stepen’s face, big toothy grin= your avatar pic but not in the dark, nevr mind its dumb

roger, i’ve always been a fan of licensing : ) financially it’s the easiest to pursue……i also have been a fan of stephen key/roger brown’s mthods….and this product was done exactly per those methods….with one exception—my partner and i are seeking patent protection—but this time around (last time i paid way too much) it will be so much more affordable…

however, if the licensing deal does not work out (i won’t settle for just any licensing deal) then my only option is to go manufacture and sell my own product for a while until i can demonstrate sales….

roger, ps i just checked out your snazzy new look on your website….nice

Based on my experiences with seminars, nothing’s for free.

You have to ask yourself how much is the advice and experience of someone who has successfully been in the business for a while worth to you. Stephen has done numerous seminars and anyone I have talked to that went stated they learned things they did not know before from the experience. I receive about 40 emails daily either asking for help, advice, askiing me to review and critique their sell sheets, or want me to collaberate on their idea. It is almost becoming a 40 hour a week job. So, I understand Stephen mentioning or selling his course to balance the time spent.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

I can understand it too. Everyone sells their videos etc. after a seminar. I just wanted to get a feel for how much info would be presented. I have to arrange babysitting , etc.and didn’t want to make the trip if I wasn’t going to learn anything. I’ve been on a conference call with Stephen and Andrew. I thought they were appropriate about mentioning their system, kind of waited until the end to mention it. I’m looking forward to going to the seminar.

Margaret, did you feel that you learned something useful from the conference call? If you did then I would say it was worth it. I have seven products on the market and got two more licensed that are finally in final design slated for release early 2010 and have to say that I am always learning. I can’t say you ever reach the end with learning. You just get better at making the best of your knowledge and experience.

http://www.rogerbrown.net

“I can understand it too. Everyone sells their videos etc. after a seminar. I just wanted to get a feel for how much info would be presented. I have to arrange babysitting , etc.and didn’t want to make the trip if I wasn’t going to learn anything.”

Whatcha talkin’ bout, Margaret? Didn’t they mention that child care would be provided!?

Too funny Eddie!

Okay, so I babysit, but I don’t do windows!!! : ) You will also notice that they are all wearing Ron’s Handi-Straps junior!

http://www.rogerbrown.net

too funny…now kids are wearing handi-straps…

i agree with roger, if you come out with one new thing you learned, it makes it worth it….

if anything, i find his talks inspirational, and gets me to rethink my strategies (some which i have learned from stephen) and get going again….

“Okay, so I babysit, but I don’t do windows!!!” : )

           
“That’s exactly how we feel, Mr. Brown…Exactly how we feel!”

Hey Peanut, do you think the bite taken out of the apple symbolizes the tree of knoledge?

Oops, Knowledge.

Hmm…? Well, to be quite honest with you, I’m not an actual biblical scholar, although I do play one on TV! I don’t believe that the Old Testament ever referred to the aforementioned “apple” to be an actual apple…I think it was referred to as just “fruit”?!

I guess, the bite taken from the MAC Apple could be considered symbolic in nature…I mean, seriously, what’s worse than biting into an apple and finding a worm in it? Biting into an apple and finding half a worm…See what mean?!

Gross! Hahaha, well I once bit into an apple n knocked the cap off my front tooth,.. But the only tasty worm is at the end of a Tequilla bottle!

Just wondering if anyone else will be attending Stephen Key’s seminar tomorrow.

This was really stupid of Mike Drummond, especially when I.D advertises for Absolutly New.

http://www.inventorsdigest.com/?p=2106

Now Gizmo…there you go again throwing more fuel on a fight. This has been an ongoing fight for a few years now.

One thing I ask. If a dog comes to YOUR house barking at you inside from your own front yard wouldn’t you be pissed? Wouldn’t that dog let’s say be barking up the wrong tree so to speak?

Will someone tell me what the hell Stephen was doing going to Edison Nation/ Inventor Digest home town to promote his competing services? Isn’t their another town he could have picked?

It does seem Stephen keeps coming on Edison Nation/Inventors Digest territory to sell. Why? Is this what starts this trouble? Who is the instigator?

I just want to see all get along. As for this fight…all should let it be and not get involved. This surely has something to do with Stephen coming a little too close to Edison Nation’s home again….and that does matter as Edison Nation works VERY hard to get a good reputation with their local media.

When another comes along and messes with that…tries to take that over by placing a bunch of ads in the same newspaper that Edison Nation uses…well then…we should all expect the “gloves” to come off and we should all stay out of it so this does not become some gang fight full of stupid kids.

Again…if you were selling hot dogs…like I told Stephen personally….why would you bring your cart next to the other guy’s??? Go find your own corner!!! There are many! Why hurt each other? There are many hot dog vendors just trying to make a living! Do they all have to go to war?

Now who brought their hot dog cart too close again….someone tell me why Stephen chose Edison Nation’s hometown for his inventing seminar? Stephen knows all too well that fighting is sure to erupt again…and that makes no one look good!!!

I take no side and wish all to get along…but somehow these guys decided to get a little to close for comfort in Charlotte NC. Wish this would stop and just get back to seriousness of the field.

Ron, I’m not throwing fuel. Stephen Key is good for the invetors game. It doesnt matter if your a student of his or not, he will always help inventors head down the right road ( student or not ).
He has the right to go push his product anywhere he wants.It wasnt like he was selling corn dogs and cotton candy in there parking lot. Hell Ron all the guys trying to do is help others and make money. Isnt that what everyones after at the end of the day.
I bet some EN members went to see Stephen

I don’t know Stephen and this is NOT a bad comparison. But, I think he looks like a cleaned up Sammy Hagar. The Red Inventor meets the Red Rocker!

Rofl!

Just sitting back and watching all the infighting going on with former allies going after each other. Seems rather interesting and entertaining. At least they’re not going after defenseless women anymore…

Colonel…funny stuff!

I’m not here to defend Stephen, I did see him on the boards here, perhaps drumming up some business…but that open letter wasn’t right and I think Mike knows it and he’s owned up.

Live and learn. Maybe InventRight is somewhat a competitor to Edison Nation…but the truth is, as an inventor, both are benificial to me.

I’d love to try Stephen’s course out, but since my wife died, I don’t exactly have that sort of money lying around.

I most likely am going to buy Louis’ book, but would love a copy of Stephen’s course if anyone has one to lend me…or heck, maybe I can do an impartial review of both…I smell an article Mike!!! Let me do both and give a six month review of the things I’ve learned.

Jason

Hi Fellas,

I was there. And here’s my 2 cents. I don’t see a problem with Stephen coming to Charlotte, and I seriously doubt that EN did either. There’s enough room in this town (world) for both of them. :) I think Mike’s points were that he felt Stephen may have inflated his experience (saying things like “the” keynote speaker for the USPTO rather than “a” keynote speaker). It wasn’t an issue for me as I knew that there were other keynote speakers. It sounded like he thought some things might have been misleading to people who saw the ad in the paper and showed up unaware. I could see his point in some ways. If I look at it from the perspective of someone who has no familiarity with Stephen and/or the inventing process, they may have thought they would get more out of it. Or they may have felt they had to buy the cd’s to succeed. I’m familiar with Stephen through EN, etc. I asked about the seminar in this post because I wanted to be sure I would learn something and it wouldn’t just be cd sales. I didn’t want to arrange babysittting for nothing. :) Eva shared her experience below, and that is exactly what I found the seminar to be like. I did learn a few things and I enjoyed hearing about Stephen’s experiences.

I went to Louis Foreman’s seminar too. I really enjoyed hearing things from his perspective as well. He had his book for sale afterwards. Let’s see, $700 or the cost of a book. I think we know what this struggling inventor chose (actually, I already had the book before the seminar).

Hmmm? I thinking a reality show ;-), but we need to establish the bad guy first.

i have had the pleasure of working with both mike, as my editor (and wow, can i say i learned alot about writing from mike…it was a great experience to write for Inventor’s Digest and i am grateful to mike for taking a chance on me) and with also Stephen, who i can say is my biggest mentor out there…

i realize there are some differences between mike and stephen…(and frankly reminds me of another time and place when i was a part of ‘aired out laundry)…really hard to know ’who’ is at fault for anything…i do know one thing, that this world is big enough for everyone…Stephen and EN, or any other company are all ‘Big Boys’ and are free to go out there and get ‘business’ in any way, shape or form they want—even if it’s on each other’s turf—and may the best man win…

both Stephen and EN are here to make money…and there’s no shame in that…aren’t we in inventing to make money?…in the ugly world of invention scam companies, both Stephen and EN are the creme at the top for being companies who are, yes in it for the money, but are doing it in the best way, within their means, while making money, to do the best thing for the inventor…..

i can’t speak on behalf of Stephen and Mike’s differences, but i can tell you that Stephen has been nothing but good, inspiring, supportive, encouraging and available to me…when i read how many inventors came to his defense on the editorial website page, i sat in amazement wondering how i sometimes speak to him about 40 minutes a week—how the heck did Stephen have time for all these people?…

i can’t begin to tell you how Stephen has shaped my views about the inventing world in a positive, self-empowering way…because of Stephen nudging me out of the safety of my ‘new inventor’ nest, i am no longer a ‘fearful’ inventor…i am a confident inventor who sticks her ground…and yes, you betcha his methods work…they are working for me…and to boot, when i talk to new inventors, i almost feel like i am preaching his gospel because it makes so much sense…

You’ve got to be kidding me, Michael?! I’m assuming, you obviously attended Stephen Key’s workshop there in Charlotte (as Editor-in-Chief of Inventors Digest) representing Enventys, correct? And you seriously have nothing more to report back than this petty-ass BS regarding a few possible misused/misplaced words…Seriously?! What motivated you to post this publicly anyway?

Stephen Recently Honored As Keynote Speaker At The United State Patent & Trademark Office Annual Independent Inventor Conference November 5 & 6, 2009.

Mike Drummond wrote: “The use of the word “honored” in this context carries a connotation weightier than your presentation warranted. Perhaps you meant to say you were honored to be there.”

Hmmm…Perhaps that was the intended/actual use? Maybe it’s just me, but I think “your” reaction alone to the wording, as used in the aforementioned headline is taken totally out-of-context, whatcha think? Wasn’t Louis Foreman a keynote speaker there as well? I didn’t say “The”!

Obviously, for whatever reason, your intent was to discredit and/or demean Stephen Key and/or his program…Later you recanted by saying, “We intend to run a piece on Stephen Key’s course in an upcoming issue. And for the record, I was impressed with his workshop.”

mdrummond says:
November 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Message received, folks!
We intend to run a piece on Stephen Key’s course in an upcoming issue. And for the record, I was impressed with his workshop. During a one-on-one conversation recently, I tried to impress on Stephen that he didn’t need to engage in all the hyperbole. I thought given his standing, he was above the sort of “carnival barker” language I harped about. I was happy to see he agreed.
In retrospect, however, I should have tried again to reach a meeting of the minds with him off the grid, rather than on this public forum.
You live, and you learn. My apologies to him for this lapse and for upsetting his community and stirring this fecal storm.
I haven’t had the opportunity to review the CD series. Mr. Key and Andrew Krauss haven’t gotten back to me yet on a review copy. I’m eager to see the whole thing.
I, like Stephen, look forward to getting this in the rear-view mirror.
Best,
Mike Drummond, editor-in-chief
Inventors Digest"

What wit dat?!

Eva wrote:
i can’t begin to tell you how Stephen has shaped my views about the inventing world in a positive, self-empowering way…because of Stephen nudging me out of the safety of my ‘new inventor’ nest, i am no longer a ‘fearful’ inventor…i am a confident inventor who sticks her ground…and yes, you betcha his methods work…they are working for me…and to boot, when i talk to new inventors, i almost feel like i am preaching his gospel because it makes so much sense…

Eva, you always post a positive and insightful message, no matter what. I wish I had your reserve and poise. If I didn’t know you, I would never know what trials and tribulations you went through here and other forums. Keep posting, you’re an inspiration to us all!

astro boy, thanks for your kind words…

Ok…I couldn’t resist….

I know Stephen too and feel he does know his stuff and has been successful and you can’t argue with success as the old saying goes…and like a few of you have said at the end of the day he is in business to make money and sell courses and that is fine with me. The trick however is to take any good info you get and actually put it to use. The big problem I see with inventors is a lack of action that is based on good advice. I realize many inventors just don’t have the financial means to make their dreams a reality and that is fine and understandable but there are those that can afford to take a product to market but they are misinformed about the realities of the process and the time and money it takes to succeed at it.