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My USB Socket Dual Way

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I want to know  opinion of people here about my invention idea that is a socket for usbs to use them both sides upside down or downside up.

kindly let me know if you think that this is feasible Idea.

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Qamar

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eensnsn - Descriptions of concepts (inventions) in open forums such as this is considered Public Disclosure because it can then be read/inspected/used by any human being on earth, and is never a good move.

If you'd care to submit future concepts for licensing possibilities, you can follow the "Submit An Idea" link at the top of the page.

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Thank you frank for suggestion right now I am looking for peoples' opinion 

if this idea gets peoples liking then I will submit it to forum but let me know this too that how this forum will help me in producing this product

thanks

Qamar

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I'm afraid you do not understand..... the Edison Nation forums is not a place to publicly gauge the feedback on your invention idea to see if it's worth submitting.        

Unless the invention has at least a Provisional Patent Application already filed, ANYone who reads and likes your idea can file on it themselves, manufacture them, and sell it like crazy.... and there is nothing you can do about it!       Legally, you voluntarily gave it away.

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Eensnsn, You do understand the U.S. is FIRST to file. As Frank stated never post an idea in an open forum with no protection. That is the quickest way to lose it.

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@eensnsn

I believe what you described has already been done.  A USB socket typically has four metal leads- 2 of them are ground leads the other two are 5 volts + and 5 volts -.

The whole reason for making the USB entry socket 'keyed' or 'one-way' is to avoid shorting the device or socket out.

In regards to a 'reversible' type of socket, I believe the correct terminology is actually called 'mirrored'.  This would be a standard USB socket with another one exactly opposite it in a 'mirror' configuration.  This would only add to the cost and complexity of any USB socket.   If someone is that lazy or in that much of a hurry they cannot flip the USB connector over 180 degrees to plug it in, then I don't know what to say.

They already have dual USB charging sockets and/or adapters like you mention, so I'm afraid the originality of that is out the window.  Here's more on everything USB:

Reversible USB Type-C: What Is It? Everything You Need To Know


Update March 9th 2015: Apple has confirmed its radical new MacBook will be the first mass market device to fit USB Type-C. Just one port will single-handedly replace the power, video and data ports, showing the specification's incredible flexibility.

It may have a rubbish name, but ‘USB Type-C’ is the most important technology to hit the tech space in years. With it comes so much speed, convenience and power that our gadgets will never be the same again. What’s more Type-C will launch before the end of the year and mass adoption should begin as soon as early 2015.

So what is it? Let’s break it all down.

What is USB Type-C?

To understand Type-C means understanding existing USB standards. Right now there are four main categories:

USB Type-A – the original, rectangular form factor used by USB keys and external drives, almost everything

USB Type-B – the little used square form factor most commonly seen on the back of printers. It is a fading standard

Micro USB – the tiny, near-universal form factor used by smartphones and tablets (only Apple AAPL +0.03% bucks the trend with Lightning)

Mini USB – the larger predecessor of Micro USB was used at the device end of things like GPS units and some external hard drives, but like USB Type-B it is fast fading from use.

Image courtesy of Wikipedia

You will notice each type has a different form factor and the same is true for USB Type-C. Unlike the other standards which target different classes of device, however, USB Type-C (below) wants to replace them all. It combines the small size of Micro USB with the speed and power delivery potential of USB Type-A. In short: this is one USB standard to rule them all.

The Upsides

Speed

USB Type-C can go as fast as any USB standard and it will launch with compliancy for ‘USB 3.1’. This generational jump doubles the performance of USB 3.0 from 5Gbps to 10Gbps (equivalent to 1,250 megabytes per second). The latest version of Intel INTC +0.14% Thunderbolt (used on Macs but still rare on PCs) can manage 20Gbps, but the difference will matter little for the vast majority of users.

Power

USB Type-C will also be compliant with the second major advancement of USB 3.1: vastly more power. Whereas USB 2.0 can handle current of up to 500 milliamps (mA) for up to 2.5W of power and USB 3.0 upped that to 900mA for up to 4.5W of power, USB 3.1 can offer 5 amps (5000mA) and up to 100W of power.

To put this in perspective, a typical 15.4-inch laptop will consume around 60-65 watts on average. This means not only will devices charge far faster, but almost anything can be powered via USB 3.1 and the tiny USB Type-C connector. Consequently printers, monitors, speakers and even laptops could all be powered from a desktop PC and laptops themselves could dump their wide array of incompatible barrel chargers for a single USB Type-C connector which would double as an extra port when not charging.

Reversible

Finally with USB Type-C the USB cable will become reversible killing off that most irritating of first world problems and meaning no more fumbling around. This was arguably the best aspect of Apple’s Lightning connector and now USB has the same flexibility.

Compliance

The USB Type-C standard was finalised earlier this month by the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) meaning it will be an official standard just like USB Type-A, Type-B, Mini and Micro USB. It is also backwards compatible with each USB standard, though the USB 3.1 speed and power benefits it can deliver will only come when connecting to other USB 3.1 compliant ports.

The Downsides

Adaptors

While USB Type-C is backwards compatible with previous USB standards it is not physically compatible. This means Type-C cables will need adaptors to fit into existing slots. Given the standard is USB-IF ratified they are likely to cost peanuts (unlike the $29 Apple Lightning cable adaptors), but it still means disruption.

Reversible USB Type-A design from Apple patent

Apple

Those who attack Apple do so primarily because of its preference for proprietary technologies over wider industry standards and once more this could prove a problem for USB Type-C.

Recent iPhone 6 leaks show Apple is working on its own form of reversible USB Type-A. Because this is not being developed in conjunction with the USB-IF, it would give Apple the potential to charge license fees for it and is therefore likely to detract from the company’s desire to drive adoption of Type-C.

Read more: iPhone 6 Leaks Show New Cable Design. Apple Redesigns USB

Security

After the game changing 'BadUSB' hack announced last month it is unclear if USB Type-C or the USB 3.1 specification has been altered in any way to stop it. Certainly at this point the USB-IF has yet to address this.

Read more: Every USB Device Under Threat. New Hack Is Undetectable And Unfixable

Impact

Despite these downsides, the benefits of USB Type-C are abundantly clear. In combination with USB 3.1, Type-C can become the unified speed and power connection for all forms of technology and with the first devices creeping out before the end of the year we won’t have to wait long.

There is no doubt as momentum around USB Type-C grows so will confusion in 2015, but unlike so many technology overhauls this one is well worth it.

Sarah Mann
James Chapman
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Ralph, great information. It is also a great learning tool from the point of doing research of your ideas. How many people do you think would have used the term "Mirrored" in their search? 

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I agree with the others... unless you have it protected refrain from posting it in the forums this is not a "Think Tank" atmosphere... Although, I would love to have a few of the members here on my think tank team. 

Anyway, good idea. Iphone did it with the lightening jack. I wouldn't spend much time on it.

Welcome to EN.

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I appreciate your guidance.

1 in the world each day thousands of ideas are being registered each day 

2 2 or more people can some up with same Idea because of co incidence

3 this invention will be produced by the company that has bought its patent 

4 many other companies will do the same and reproduce 

what is bad if I also ask for crowdfund and make a company by it.

kindly guide me

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Eensnsn, first let me say I am not saying you should not pursue your dreams. I am saying you need to look at your abilities to get distribution, what is going to make yours stand out over others already on the market. 

You also need to make sure you are not infringing on others patents. And also take into consideration the electronic market is fast moving and items are obsolete quickly. And you saying "many companies will do the same and reproduce" is that going to be your pitch to the company's you approach or the crowdfunding supporters you want to attract? 

Saying "2 or more people can some up with same Idea because of co incidence" is not going to get you out of a infringement lawsuit if you infringe on another companies patent.

And if SanDisk has the same product and 4 feet of shelf space how are you going to talk Best Buy or WalMart to give you shelf space for the exact same product?

You might want to read this thread https://www.edisonnation.com/forums/crowdfunding/t... it goes with some of what you are discussing.

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Ooooops..... wrong thread, sorry : (

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they are making a new usb not the socket for currently used usb ports this (my) socket will be put in computers so that all current usb cords will be inserted in them reversably.

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jdowney9000's Avatar

Oh! I get it. A double wide!

Problem then is the metal around the usb would contact the contacts on the other side of the new socket.

The metal around the connector is connected to pin 4 (ground, or chassis).

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